Subject: Re: Let's see if this works! CAUS border story
Date: Apr 08, 2002 @ 02:38
Author: acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
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ok then
we see it works
a cause border story
m

--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "Doug Murray" <doug@d...> wrote:
> Exactly.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: lnadybal
> To: BoundaryPoint@y...
> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 9:00 AM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Let's see if this works! CAUS border
story
>
>
> Anyone?
> I understood it. It meant "anybody else out there with input
about
> this or any other location where they know about or experienced
any
> preclearance that's not been covered in this thread, yet?".
> LN
>
>
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "acroorca2002" <orc@o...> wrote:
> > From: Doug
> > >Anyone?
> >
> > anyone
> > anyone what
> >
> > do you mean
> > would anyone like to do it at heathrow
> > or is anyone sure
> > or can anyone see if this works
> > or does this work for anyone
> > or what
> >
> > will there be clarity or just clearance
> >
> > m
> >
> >
> > but if all you mean is
> > does or would anyone like preclearance
> > then i would like to go clear back to message 6060
> >
> > & i know all this was previously cleared by us
> > but the basque heirlemaor aka heirmameos in french is such a
nice
> > quintipoint
> > & we havent seen any quintipoint this clearly here before
> > despite the fact that the quintipoints are the worlds largest
known
> > living megapoints
> >
> >
> > of the 3 known individual surviving quintipoints
> > heirlemaor is the highest both in altitude & ordination
> > being the only one situated any great distance above sea level
> > & reaching certainly beyond the quaternary political level
> > perhaps even as high as the septenary by one reckoning
> > tho it seems happiest when styled as a quintenary quintipoint
> >
> > albeit unique among the quintis in having 2 familiar names
> > its full technical name has still not been uttered nor even
cobbled
> > together into any of its possible forms
> >
> >
> > of the worlds 2 other extant quintis only glhemaokpa has been
named
> > at all
> > & in fact it alone has been fully identified so far
> > specifically as usfl3glhemaokpa
> > & it alone has been tried
> > but its map isnt nearly so interesting
> >
> >
> > the third & least familiar of the quintis
> > is distinguished by being international
> > but this point hasnt even been fully cognized at bp yet
> > nor presented here on any adequate map
> > probably because of the difficulty of finding & assembling its
parts
> > from the maps of 2 different countries
> >
> > this still anonymous quinti is precleared for the
classification
> nose3
> > yet is comprised like heirlemaor only of municipal entities
> > which in scandinavia are less subordinated politically than in
> france
> >
> >
> > & thats about all that has previously been made clear about
these
> > most major points in the world
> >
> >
> > now if it also still isnt clear yet why this centripetal note
has
> > been inserted into such a centrifugal discussion
> > let me just flat out suggest that some balance of the cohesive
&
> > dispersive directionalities may in fact be needed if we are
even to
> > see if this works
> > because vanishing in all directions at once would otherwise
make us
> &
> > what works for us quite invisible to ourselves
> > & we would then not be able to see if this or anything works
> >
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "Doug Murray" <doug@d...> wrote:
> > > I think they also do the same preclearance in some European
> > airports -- but can't find the info. I did find list that
included
> > Aruba, Bahamas (2), Bermuda, and Canada (7). I'm sure that
they do
> > it at Heathrow. Anyone?
> > >
> > > Doug
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: lnadybal
> > > To: BoundaryPoint@y...
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 2:44 PM
> > > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Let's see if this works! CAUS
> border
> > story
> > >
> > >
> > > The US also operates "preclearance" in Bermuda (which I've
been
> > > through myself) as well as on some other Caribbean islands
> (which
> > I've
> > > only been told is so).
> > >
> > > LN
> > >
> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "mls515.rm" <mls515@r...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I stand corrected! My apologies, I was going off bad
> > information.
> > > > The preclearance is a fantastic idea in my opinion
because it
> > > enables
> > > > more direct flights from Canadian cities to smaller US
> markets.
> > > >
> > > > The only other country I know of that has US Customs
> > preclearance is
> > > > Ireland (At DUB and SNN). I have to urgently run off to
work
> > at the
> > > > moment, but here is the "Agreement between Ireland and
the
> > United
> > > > States of America on Preinspection":
> > > >
> > > > http://193.120.124.98/gen241986a.html
> > > >
> > > > I'm wondering if there is a difference in the area of
arrest
> > powers,
> > > > I'll have to read it when I get back.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > MIKE
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "Doug Murray" <doug@d...>
wrote:
> > > > > As a Canadian, it doesn't bother me as long as it's a
two
> way
> > > > street. And I, for one, think that we should have
combined
> > security
> > > > for North America minus Mexico -- tough screening at all
ports
> > of
> > > > entry into Canada and the US and then easy passage
between the
> > two
> > > > nations. I don't feel my sovereignty threatened by
that.
> > > > >
> > > > > As for US customs agents at airports -- are you sure
they
> > have
> > > > arrest powers? I recall a story at Vancouver
International
> > where US
> > > > agents detained a 16 year old Canadian girl for a day --
> simply
> > > > because she was dressed in a provocative manner. And
all
> > heck
> > > > broke loose -- in that they cannot do that.
> > > > >
> > > > > It would seem to me that they can detain and turn over
to
> the
> > > > RCMP... but as they are on Canadian soil, they have no
powers
> > of
> > > > arrest. I don't think they carry guns. They can refuse
entry
> > and
> > > > issue 5 year entry bans on the spot (meaning no joking)!
> > > > >
> > > > > But there is a better story recently reported: a
Canadian
> > > citizen,
> > > > now living in the US, was charged and convicted of doing
> > business
> > > > with Cuba while he was in Canada! That's like Canada
> > convicting an
> > > > American for breaking Canadian law in the States!!!
Canada
> > has no
> > > > embargo with Cuba...
> > > > >
> > > > > Strange little world over here in the territories!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Doug
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: mls515.rm
> > > > > To: BoundaryPoint@y...
> > > > > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:52 AM
> > > > > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Let's see if this works!
CAUS
> > > border
> > > > story
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Funny that they'd be uneasy with Canadian officials
> > operating in
> > > > the
> > > > > United States. How about US Customs pre-screening
> > operating at
> > > > > numerous Canadian airports? Given that they have
arrest
> > powers
> > > > on
> > > > > their sovereign soil, that is something worthy of
being
> > uneasy
> > > > about.
> > > > >
> > > > > Good to hear that the US is sharing info on
northbound
> > traffic.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > MIKE
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "Doug Murray Productions"
> > <doug@d...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Print Story - canada.com network
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cameras target border jumpers
> > > > > > Staff now can see why a sensor has been
> > tripped
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Glenn Bohn
> > > > > > Vancouver Sun
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thursday, April 04, 2002
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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