Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Let's see if this works! CAUS border story
Date: Apr 07, 2002 @ 17:26
Author: Doug Murray ("Doug Murray" <doug@...>)
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Exactly.
----- Original Message -----
From: lnadybal
To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 9:00 AM
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Let's see if this works! CAUS border story

Anyone?
I understood it.  It meant "anybody else out there with input about
this or any other location where they know about or experienced any
preclearance that's not been covered in this thread, yet?".
LN



--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "acroorca2002" <orc@o...> wrote:
> From: Doug
> >Anyone?
>
> anyone
> anyone what
>
> do you mean
> would anyone like to do it at heathrow
> or is anyone sure
> or can anyone see if this works
> or does this work for anyone
> or what
>
> will there be clarity or just clearance
>
> m
>
>
> but if all you mean is
> does or would anyone like preclearance
> then i would like to go clear back to message 6060
>
> & i know all this was previously cleared by us
> but the basque heirlemaor aka heirmameos in french is such a nice
> quintipoint
> & we havent seen any quintipoint this clearly here before
> despite the fact that the quintipoints are the worlds largest known
> living megapoints
>
>
> of the 3 known individual surviving quintipoints
> heirlemaor is the highest both in altitude & ordination
> being the only one situated any great distance above sea level
> & reaching certainly beyond the quaternary political level
> perhaps even as high as the septenary by one reckoning
> tho it seems happiest when styled as a quintenary quintipoint
>
> albeit unique among the quintis in having 2 familiar names
> its full technical name has still not been uttered nor even cobbled
> together into any of its possible forms
>
>
> of the worlds 2 other extant quintis only glhemaokpa has been named
> at all
> & in fact it alone has been fully identified so far
> specifically as usfl3glhemaokpa
> & it alone has been tried
> but its map isnt nearly so interesting
>
>
> the third & least familiar of the quintis
> is distinguished by being international
> but this point hasnt even been fully cognized at bp yet
> nor presented here on any adequate map
> probably because of the difficulty of finding & assembling its parts
> from the maps of 2 different countries
>
> this still anonymous quinti is precleared for the classification
nose3
> yet is comprised like heirlemaor only of municipal entities
> which in scandinavia are less subordinated politically than in
france
>
>
> & thats about all that has previously been made clear about these
> most major points in the world
>
>
> now if it also still isnt clear yet why this centripetal note has
> been inserted into such a centrifugal discussion
> let me just flat out suggest that some balance of the cohesive &
> dispersive directionalities may in fact be needed if we are even to
> see if this works
> because vanishing in all directions at once would otherwise make us
&
> what works for us quite invisible to ourselves
> & we would then not be able to see if this or anything works
>
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "Doug Murray" <doug@d...> wrote:
> > I think they also do the same preclearance in some European
> airports -- but can't find the info.  I did find list that included
> Aruba, Bahamas (2), Bermuda, and Canada (7).  I'm sure that they do
> it at Heathrow.  Anyone?
> >
> > Doug
> >
> >
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: lnadybal
> >   To: BoundaryPoint@y...
> >   Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 2:44 PM
> >   Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Let's see if this works! CAUS
border
> story
> >
> >
> >   The US also operates "preclearance" in Bermuda (which I've been
> >   through myself) as well as on some other Caribbean islands
(which
> I've
> >   only been told is so).
> >
> >   LN
> >
> >   --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "mls515.rm" <mls515@r...> wrote:
> >   >
> >   > I stand corrected!  My apologies, I was going off bad
> information. 
> >   > The preclearance is a fantastic idea in my opinion because it
> >   enables
> >   > more direct flights from Canadian cities to smaller US
markets.
> >   >
> >   > The only other country I know of that has US Customs
> preclearance is
> >   > Ireland (At DUB and SNN).  I have to urgently run off to work
> at the
> >   > moment, but here is the "Agreement between Ireland and the
> United
> >   > States of America on Preinspection":
> >   >
> >   > http://193.120.124.98/gen241986a.html
> >   >
> >   > I'm wondering if there is a difference in the area of arrest
> powers,
> >   > I'll have to read it when I get back.
> >   >
> >   >
> >   > MIKE
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >
> >   > --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "Doug Murray" <doug@d...> wrote:
> >   > > As a Canadian, it doesn't bother me as long as it's a two
way
> >   > street.  And I, for one, think that we should have combined
> security
> >   > for North America minus Mexico -- tough screening at all ports
> of
> >   > entry into Canada and the US and then easy passage between the
> two
> >   > nations.  I don't feel my sovereignty threatened by that. 
> >   > >
> >   > > As for US customs agents at airports -- are you sure they
> have
> >   > arrest powers?  I recall a story at Vancouver International
> where US
> >   > agents detained a 16 year old Canadian girl for a day --
simply
> >   > because she was dressed in a provocative manner.    And all
> heck
> >   > broke loose -- in that they cannot do that. 
> >   > >
> >   > > It would seem to me that they can detain and turn over to
the
> >   > RCMP... but as they are on Canadian soil, they have no powers
> of
> >   > arrest.  I don't think they carry guns. They can refuse entry
> and
> >   > issue 5 year entry bans on the spot (meaning no joking)!
> >   > >
> >   > > But there is a better story recently reported:  a Canadian
> >   citizen,
> >   > now living in the US, was charged and convicted of doing
> business
> >   > with Cuba while he was in Canada!  That's like Canada
> convicting an
> >   > American for breaking Canadian law in the States!!!   Canada
> has no
> >   > embargo with Cuba... 
> >   > >
> >   > > Strange little world over here in the territories!!
> >   > >
> >   > > Doug
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   > >   From: mls515.rm
> >   > >   To: BoundaryPoint@y...
> >   > >   Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:52 AM
> >   > >   Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Let's see if this works! CAUS
> >   border
> >   > story
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >   Funny that they'd be uneasy with Canadian officials
> operating in
> >   > the
> >   > >   United States.  How about US Customs pre-screening
> operating at
> >   > >   numerous Canadian airports?  Given that they have arrest
> powers
> >   > on
> >   > >   their sovereign soil, that is something worthy of being
> uneasy
> >   > about.
> >   > >
> >   > >   Good to hear that the US is sharing info on northbound
> traffic.
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >   MIKE
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > >   --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "Doug Murray Productions"
> <doug@d...>
> >   > >   wrote:
> >   > >   > Print Story - canada.com network
> >   > >   >      
> >   > >   >
> >   > >   >             Cameras target border jumpers
> >   > >   >             Staff now can see why a sensor has been
> tripped
> >   > >   >                    
> >   > >   >                   Glenn Bohn 
> >   > >   >                   Vancouver Sun
> >   > >   >
> >   > >   >
> >   > >   >             Thursday, April 04, 2002
> >   > >
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