wow thanks for all the detailed info, the maritime boundaries hadn't
even occured to me. landlubber!
In regards to the bcazca and sonbcaz tripoints i didn't expect to
find an exact point but rather where the 'iron curtain' would meet
the river at the 2 points. I've been over the colorado and vacationed
there on occasion as a child and the vegetation is quite thick, so I
thought seeing the wall end at some point and water begin would
suffice for me. That's my next trip since i am so close i think i'll
do it this week sometime and post photos here.
I did get down to border field state park yesterday and snapped
around 50 photos with the digital camera from the US side. I'll post
a few of the most enjoyable ones here. Click on the 'photos' category
on the left hand side of this page, then us/mex border. Please note
how different the monument and wall look now compared to the photo on
the IBWC website
(
http://www.ibwc.state.gov/LANDBOUN/land_boundary.htm)
The last monument at border field state park is easily accesible but
most of the border wall is quite heavily fortified as to where it is
difficult to get close in many spots. Most of the border patrol
agents are amicable too, in contrast to how it actually feels there.
As far as for other monuments in my area, I've found that it's
actually much easier to access the monuments from within TJ. They've
built many semi-highways that zip right along the border wall and
that's the best way to access these points (near the airport and
towards the beach). Of course that also makes it difficult to stop
and casually snap a photo. And since the wall was built a foot or 2
behind the monument the US shield is difficult to see.
Victor
--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "acroorca2002" <orc@o...> wrote:
> victor
> what i wanted to add yesterday when i had to run is that i am
> grateful for what you said here below to redeem the natural beauty
&
> freshness of the border field area in my mind
> for it is an important area not only because the visible mxus line
> ends in the sea there but also because of 2 or 3 little known
> tripoints associated with it
>
> the first of these
> bccamx
> is right there on the beach on the mexican side of the wall where
the
> monumented dry mxus line falls to within 20 or 10 horizontal meters
> of the high tide mark
> tho i forget which of these numbers is the legally correct one
> oops
>
> but whichever it is
> this is the point where the mexican federal maritime territory
meets
> california & the mexican state of baja california norte
>
> it is strange & possibly unique in the world that the mexican
federal
> seas include this dry margin along the beach but they do
>
> it is as if they have a couple of extra long narrow federal
districts
> running the full length of both their coasts
> but i figure these must be interrupted by coastal cities etc
>
>
> in any case if you should find a mexican marker at that position on
> the monumented mxus line
> as distinct from the common sort of international mxus marker
> you will be the first to find any mexican federative marker anywhere
>
> i have looked for several other & more obvious prospects elsewhere
> along the mxus line but havent found a one
>
>
> the other 2 tripoints are in the sea along the westward projection
of
> the monumented mxus line
>
> bccaus
> at about 3 nautical miles seaward
> or where american federal seas meet california waters
> is likely to be visible on a clear day
>
> & elmxus
> at about 12 nautical miles seaward
> thus perhaps at the horizon on a very clear day if you are sitting
on
> top of the wall & wishfully thinking
> the point where american & mexican territorial seas meet the high
> seas or what we have sometimes been calling everyones land &
> abbreviating el
>
> this last point is also a quadripoint of sorts
> mxusmxus
> where the exclusive economic zones of both countries meet the
> territorial seas of both
> an important point either way you look at it if indeed you care &
are
> lucky enough to glimpse it
>
>
> must run again
> but that about covers it anyway
>
> regards
> m
>
>
> this message reconstitutes & replaces another message that for some
> reason hasnt yet arrived at bp
> so dont mind if a similar yet nonidentical message should float in
> one day
>
> > In response to Border Field, it is actually quite nice now the
> state
> > of California has spent a lot of money to upgrade this park that
> very
> > few people visit but that's fine by me sometimes I go there and
> just
> > relax and fall asleep listening to the radio in my car. Sure the
> > ride's not pretty getting there (last time i went there were huge
> > unpassable mounds of dirt in the road preventing my little car
from
> > passing) but when you can get there it's worth it.