Subject: Re: Let's see if this works! CAUS border story
Date: Apr 07, 2002 @ 16:00
Author: lnadybal ("lnadybal" <lnadybal@...>)
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--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "acroorca2002" <orc@o...> wrote:
> From: Doug
> >Anyone?
>
> anyone
> anyone what
>
> do you mean
> would anyone like to do it at heathrow
> or is anyone sure
> or can anyone see if this works
> or does this work for anyone
> or what
>
> will there be clarity or just clearance
>
> m
>
>
> but if all you mean is
> does or would anyone like preclearance
> then i would like to go clear back to message 6060
>
> & i know all this was previously cleared by us
> but the basque heirlemaor aka heirmameos in french is such a nice
> quintipoint
> & we havent seen any quintipoint this clearly here before
> despite the fact that the quintipoints are the worlds largest known
> living megapoints
>
>
> of the 3 known individual surviving quintipoints
> heirlemaor is the highest both in altitude & ordination
> being the only one situated any great distance above sea level
> & reaching certainly beyond the quaternary political level
> perhaps even as high as the septenary by one reckoning
> tho it seems happiest when styled as a quintenary quintipoint
>
> albeit unique among the quintis in having 2 familiar names
> its full technical name has still not been uttered nor even cobbled
> together into any of its possible forms
>
>
> of the worlds 2 other extant quintis only glhemaokpa has been named
> at all
> & in fact it alone has been fully identified so far
> specifically as usfl3glhemaokpa
> & it alone has been tried
> but its map isnt nearly so interesting
>
>
> the third & least familiar of the quintis
> is distinguished by being international
> but this point hasnt even been fully cognized at bp yet
> nor presented here on any adequate map
> probably because of the difficulty of finding & assembling its parts
> from the maps of 2 different countries
>
> this still anonymous quinti is precleared for the classification
nose3
> yet is comprised like heirlemaor only of municipal entities
> which in scandinavia are less subordinated politically than in
france
>
>
> & thats about all that has previously been made clear about these
> most major points in the world
>
>
> now if it also still isnt clear yet why this centripetal note has
> been inserted into such a centrifugal discussion
> let me just flat out suggest that some balance of the cohesive &
> dispersive directionalities may in fact be needed if we are even to
> see if this works
> because vanishing in all directions at once would otherwise make us
&
> what works for us quite invisible to ourselves
> & we would then not be able to see if this or anything works
>
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "Doug Murray" <doug@d...> wrote:
> > I think they also do the same preclearance in some European
> airports -- but can't find the info. I did find list that included
> Aruba, Bahamas (2), Bermuda, and Canada (7). I'm sure that they do
> it at Heathrow. Anyone?
> >
> > Doug
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: lnadybal
> > To: BoundaryPoint@y...
> > Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 2:44 PM
> > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Let's see if this works! CAUS
border
> story
> >
> >
> > The US also operates "preclearance" in Bermuda (which I've been
> > through myself) as well as on some other Caribbean islands
(which
> I've
> > only been told is so).
> >
> > LN
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "mls515.rm" <mls515@r...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I stand corrected! My apologies, I was going off bad
> information.
> > > The preclearance is a fantastic idea in my opinion because it
> > enables
> > > more direct flights from Canadian cities to smaller US
markets.
> > >
> > > The only other country I know of that has US Customs
> preclearance is
> > > Ireland (At DUB and SNN). I have to urgently run off to work
> at the
> > > moment, but here is the "Agreement between Ireland and the
> United
> > > States of America on Preinspection":
> > >
> > > http://193.120.124.98/gen241986a.html
> > >
> > > I'm wondering if there is a difference in the area of arrest
> powers,
> > > I'll have to read it when I get back.
> > >
> > >
> > > MIKE
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "Doug Murray" <doug@d...> wrote:
> > > > As a Canadian, it doesn't bother me as long as it's a two
way
> > > street. And I, for one, think that we should have combined
> security
> > > for North America minus Mexico -- tough screening at all ports
> of
> > > entry into Canada and the US and then easy passage between the
> two
> > > nations. I don't feel my sovereignty threatened by that.
> > > >
> > > > As for US customs agents at airports -- are you sure they
> have
> > > arrest powers? I recall a story at Vancouver International
> where US
> > > agents detained a 16 year old Canadian girl for a day --
simply
> > > because she was dressed in a provocative manner. And all
> heck
> > > broke loose -- in that they cannot do that.
> > > >
> > > > It would seem to me that they can detain and turn over to
the
> > > RCMP... but as they are on Canadian soil, they have no powers
> of
> > > arrest. I don't think they carry guns. They can refuse entry
> and
> > > issue 5 year entry bans on the spot (meaning no joking)!
> > > >
> > > > But there is a better story recently reported: a Canadian
> > citizen,
> > > now living in the US, was charged and convicted of doing
> business
> > > with Cuba while he was in Canada! That's like Canada
> convicting an
> > > American for breaking Canadian law in the States!!! Canada
> has no
> > > embargo with Cuba...
> > > >
> > > > Strange little world over here in the territories!!
> > > >
> > > > Doug
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: mls515.rm
> > > > To: BoundaryPoint@y...
> > > > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 10:52 AM
> > > > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Let's see if this works! CAUS
> > border
> > > story
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Funny that they'd be uneasy with Canadian officials
> operating in
> > > the
> > > > United States. How about US Customs pre-screening
> operating at
> > > > numerous Canadian airports? Given that they have arrest
> powers
> > > on
> > > > their sovereign soil, that is something worthy of being
> uneasy
> > > about.
> > > >
> > > > Good to hear that the US is sharing info on northbound
> traffic.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > MIKE
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "Doug Murray Productions"
> <doug@d...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Print Story - canada.com network
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Cameras target border jumpers
> > > > > Staff now can see why a sensor has been
> tripped
> > > > >
> > > > > Glenn Bohn
> > > > > Vancouver Sun
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thursday, April 04, 2002
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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