Subject: Re: Navarre; was: more about the newly reported quintipoints<br/>
Date: Dec 02, 2001 @ 02:07<br/>
Author: orc@orcoast.com (orc@...)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-2014537846">do you get the feeling in view of all these oversimplifications & revelations that history as we know it is just someones version of some events they never witnessed nor even comprehended  & that it doesnt matter anyway because the whole mess is in any case only a history of naughtiness & nothingness rather than of any thing<br/>
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<blockquote><span title="qreply"> --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., &quot;Peter Smaardijk&quot; &lt;smaardijk@y...&gt; wrote:<br/>
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&gt; --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., Anton Sherwood &lt;bronto@p...&gt; wrote:<br/>
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&gt; &gt; Peter Smaardijk wrote:<br/>
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&gt; &gt; &gt; When this part [northern Navarre] became part of France,<br/>
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&gt; &gt; &gt; the kings of France got the title &quot;King of Navarre&quot;, too.<br/>
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&gt; &gt; <br/>
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&gt; &gt; Or the other way around.<br/>
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&gt; &gt; <br/>
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&gt; &gt; (In 1562, Henri de Bourbon succeeded his mother (to simplify <br/>
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&gt; slightly)<br/>
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&gt; &gt; as king of Navarre; and in 1589 he succeeded a distant cousin as <br/>
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&gt; king<br/>
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&gt; &gt; of France.)<br/>
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&gt; Yes, true. It&#39;s just me oversimplifying things again. But after the <br/>
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&gt; invasion of all but Lower Navarre by the Castilians (they tried to <br/>
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&gt; get that part, too, but retreated in 1530), there was not a lot left <br/>
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&gt; of the former kingdom. So when Henry III of Navarre decided that <br/>
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&gt; Paris was worth a little mass, and thus became Henry IV of France as <br/>
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&gt; well, it was a logical choice to make. Louis XIII did away with the <br/>
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&gt; distinction of the two kingdoms (but keeping the title King of <br/>
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&gt; Navarre, of course).<br/>
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&gt; In between the invasion of the Castilians and Henry III becoming IV, <br/>
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&gt; Lower Navarre was one big mess of religious and seigneurial wars.<br/>
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&gt; Peter S. </span></blockquote></div>