& finally
please find attached
first
a next & probably last
best guessed full depiction of the north boundary or
closing line
of the latex neutral ground
extending this time from the foot of bayou pierre lake
in the east
to the sabine river in the west via n32x94w
with the watershed divide lalatxtx tripoint upon it
again interpolated
& marked with a new pushpin
by this new reckoning & photo
the previous pushpin try still attached is just a
point on the 1803esus2latx convergent
so you can with its help easily visualize the notional
tee or wye shaped border trijunction
the second & last attachment zooms in to the immediate
neighborhood
any further revisions
which i doubt will be necessary
are most likely to fall somewhere between these 2
pushpins
--- aletheia kallos <
aletheiak@yahoo.com> wrote:
> ok great
> i have been lost along the mcmahon line all
> afternoon
> trying to stretch out de facto notional btcnine for
> prime time too
>
> but thanxx for all these additional rude awakenings
> hahaha
> & to think i was imagining the bayou pierre lake
> settlement could opt into the neutral ground
> just to continue avoiding authority
> hahaha
> just like me
> hahahaha
>
> but ok i get that now
>
> the authorities such as they were
> drew the notional line up the bayou pierre to keep
> everyone off the west bank
> but then they had to stop or turn this line west at
> or
> just below bayou pierre lake in order to permit this
> particular west bank settlement to be an exception &
> legally stay put
> & within american louisiana
>
> so clearly i need to revise the eastern terminus of
> my
> closing line to reflect this effectivity
>
> & i do think the southernmost point of bayou pierre
> lake just as good a stretch for the turnpoint now as
> i
> formerly did its northernmost
>
> however in the west i am not so amused
> hahahaha
>
> but now that youve confirmed the contemporary belief
> in the multiple coincidence myth
> youve freed me once again at the nw corner just as
> you
> did at the ne corner
> from any perceived need to stretch the size of the
> territory of the neutral ground
> in favor of the opportunity to stretch its bona
> fides
>
> for clearly we who can thread the needle of
> perceived
> truth thru the n32x94w intersection on the way to
> sticking its point in the sabine river should do so
> & that way we will at least be honoring all the data
> equally even if not quite so simultaneously as was
> promised & thought possible
> nor quite so expansively as i myself had first
> envisioned
>
> so happily it is back to the google earth drawing
> board for me
> & i can already foresee a pretty good lurch
> southward
> for my next & probably final lalatxtx try
> since we do finally seem to have surpassed its
> limits
> of stretchability
>
> --- "Lowell G. McManus" <lgm@wildblue.net> wrote:
>
> > I found my notional tripoint south of the airport
> by
> > using a one-foot
> > ruler and a map on which Bayou Pierre Lake and the
> > 32° x 94° confluence
> > are eleven inches apart. I then found the
> > Sabine-Red drainage divide
> > along the ruler. How near the notional tripoint
> > lands to the airport,
> > though, depends on the precise termini of the
> > northern geodesic of the
> > Neutral Ground [NG]. Let's see if we can refine
> > those termini. In
> > doing so, we must realize that the descriptions
> that
> > we have are more in
> > the way of allocation than of delimitation.
> >
> > Haggard's rendering of General Salcedo's
> description
> > of the eastern
> > terminus reads: "...along this bayou to the west
> > bank of Bayou Pierre
> > Lake at Bayou Pierre settlement." Since the BP
> > settlement was an extant
> > community, and inhabitation of the NG was to be
> > prohibited, the clear
> > intent is that the NG would extend up the bayou to
> > the BP settlement but
> > would not include it. Indeed, the BP settlers
> > stayed put through the
> > era of the NG, and the joint US-Spanish military
> > expedition designed to
> > rid the NG of illegal settlers did not molest
> them.
> > So, wherever we
> > eventually decide the BP settlement was, the
> > terminus must be just
> > downstream of it. I have some clues as to the
> > settlement's location,
> > but those require additional digging before they
> are
> > ready for prime
> > time. Stay tuned.
> >
> > Haggard's description of the geodesic and its
> > western terminus, which he
> > attributes to Davenport, is thus: "The northern
> > boundary of the Neutral
> > Ground was a straight line running in a
> > southwesterly [southwestward]
> > direction from the Bayou Pierre settlement to a
> > point crossed by the
> > thirty-second parallel of north latitude and the
> > intersection of the
> > ninety-fourth degree line of longitude and the
> > Sabine River." I knew
> > all along that the parallel, the meridian, and the
> > river did not meet at
> > a single point. That would be near impossible.
> As
> > your rude awakening
> > showed, these three lines intersect at three
> > distinct points within a
> > two-mile radius. Since the wording does not admit
> > of perfect
> > reconciliation, we must do the best we can. The
> > most obvious choice is
> > to use the degree confluence point (
> >
>
http://www.confluence.org/confluence.php?lat=32&lon=-94
> > ) and then
> > stitch to the river by prolongation along the same
> > bearing. There might
> > be other solutions, such as using a point
> > mathematically intermediate
> > between the three points, then a stitch to the
> > nearest point on the
> > river.
> >
> > Lowell G. McManus
> > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@yahoo.com>
> > To: <boundarypoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 1:05 AM
> > Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: stretching the
> > quest for a real
> > stretchable latex tripoint to stretch
> >
> >
> > > thats comforting
> > > & i would like to learn your method of getting
> > there
> > > too
> > > even as i clownishly extemporized my own landing
> > at
> > > the airport runway crossing
> > > for i could just as easily have picked anywhere
> > else
> > > within this best guessed square mile or so of
> > target
> > > area too
> > >
> > > but i have just realized there is an
> inconvenient
> > fact
> > > or 2 to dispose of first
> > >
> > > for it turns out there actually is no
> trijunction
> > of
> > > the 32nd parallel & 94th meridian with the
> sabine
> > > river
> > > oops
> > > nor even with the entire toledo bend reservoir
> > that so
> > > enlarges that general target area for us today
> > > oops again
> > > & in fact there is nothing even remotely
> > resembling
> > > such a trijunction there
> > >
> > > for the cursor cross on this map marks the exact
> > > n32x94w point
> > >
> >
>
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