Alethiak
Sorry, I really misled you there. I meant to type 100 metres east of
the Sean Blanchflower point of 019057. Not 1000 metres. In the
article I gave the grid reference at 020057 - ie. 100 metres east of
Sean. The weblinks to map extracts you give are helpful but the
superimposed arrowheads do not precisely pinpoint the target spot. I
think the quadripoint lies exactly on the vertical blue grid line
(grid line 02) on the OS map. Sean suggests it lies just west of
that grid line. Either way, it's a rather unappealing spot,
cartographically engaging to be sure, but dominated by the noise of
many heavy trucks thundering by above.
Helpful, I hope? Or am I just confusing matters more? Perhaps
someone here will take a pic and post it here soon. If not, I
promise I'll stop next time I'm in that part of England.
Nicky
--- In
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, aletheia kallos
<aletheiak@...> wrote:
>
> thanx nicky
>
> glad you are back
> & so pleasingly mobile too
>
> & not at all sure i understand this grid reference
> system yet
>
> & still guessing the quadripoint if any is up on the
> northeast shoulder of the carriageway
> above & midway between the stream & railway
> underpasses
> based on a close reading of the 4 boundaries etc shown
> on this best known map
> http://streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?
x=501925&y=305710&z=4&sv=501925,305710&st=4&ar=Y&mapp=newmap.srf&sear
chp=newsearch.srf
> the fairly well aimed center of which produces a grid
> conversion of
> tf 019057
> per
> http://streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?GridConvert?
name=501925,305710&type=OSGrid
>
> so to that extent i can & do very approximately agree
> with sean blanchflower
> even while i am up on the expressway abutment looking
> down toward him in the creek bed with my neck craned
> slightly left
> yet close enough to share the same grid reference
> number
> or in other words the same hundred meter square
> if i understand correctly
>
> 1000 meters east of there i get roughly this new map
> center point
> http://streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?
x=502915&y=305765&z=4&sv=502915,305765&st=4&ar=Y&mapp=newmap.srf&sear
chp=newsearch.srf
> which produces a grid conversion of tf 029057 per
> http://streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?GridConvert?
name=502915,305765&type=OSGrid
>
> & in order to produce your suggested grid conversion
> of tf 020057
> http://streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?GridConvert?
name=502020,305730&type=OSGrid
> i believe i would have to be at about the arrowhead
> location here
> http://streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?
x=502075&y=305745&z=4&sv=502075,305745&st=4&ar=Y&mapp=newmap.srf&sear
chp=newsearch.srf
> or only about 100 meters east of the quadripoint shown
> on this map
>
> now of course i am still only guessing
> & way over my head by now besides
> but perhaps the grid ref in the hidden europe text you
> mention reflects a rounding off to the nearest whole
> kilometer in the grid system
> plus a digital transposition typo creeping in at some
> point
>
> or anyway thats all i could think of from here that
> might reconcile everything
>
> --- Nicky Gardner <nicky@...> wrote:
>
> > Alethiak
> > You kindly posted the pointers to the Blanchflower
> > website yesterday
> > re that enigmatic English quadripoint. No, curiously
> > that wasn't
> > where I found out about it, (and I'll still working
> > on getting you a
> > contact from local people who thrive in an Internet
> > free world). But
> > Monsieur Blanchflower has surely got the Ordnance
> > Survey Grid
> > Reference wrong. He suggests the quadripoint is at
> > TF190057. It is,
> > if 'hidden europe' is to be believed, exactly 1 km
> > east of that at
> > TF 020057.
> >
> > If I am sometimes a tad slow about replying,
> > apologies. I am away
> > quite a lot during the present period -
> > interestingly, in the Piran
> > area on the still unsettled Slovenian-Croatia border
> > yesterday.
> > Nicky
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "aletheiak"
> > <aletheiak@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > nicky
> > > still very much looking forward to your coming
> > issue
> > > i just realized for some reason i neglected to
> > mention this
> > earlier
> > >
> >
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/19456
> > > & especially
> > >
> >
> http://www.blanchflower.org/tripoints/ca-nh-ru-li.html
> > > which was the actual forgotten source & cause of
> > all the stamford
> > commotion here
> > > & which just again inspired me to write away to
> > its creator for
> > the desired local help
> > > since i dont agree with his quadripoint
> > positioning in any case
> > > & am hoping i can persuade him of mine
> > > as well to go take another look for an expected
> > marker up on the
> > expressway
> > > so hopefully please stand by for more data on this
> > yet too
> > >
> > > but was he perhaps your unknown local informant
> > with the tape
> > measure etc
> > > or just a coincidence i have found a kindred
> > spirit in the
> > neighborhood
> > >
> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, aletheia
> > kallos <aletheiak@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > welcome nicky & thanx for all the great news
> > > > tho i got only as far as this tantalizing teaser
> > page
> > > >
> >
> http://www.hiddeneurope.co.uk/article_info.php?articles_id=244
> > > > so please do follow up as soon as possible with
> > the
> > > > balance of the report if you can
> > > > or with as much as you can if you cant
> > > >
> > > > in the meantime these excerpts from our recent
> > ongoing
> > > > & perhaps even simultaneous quest for your great
> > > > english quadripoint may interest you as well as
> > > > explain my excitement over seeing it evidently
> > > > referred to in your article
> > > >
> >
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/19709
> > > >
> >
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/19710
> > > >
> >
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/19712
> > > >
> >
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/19714
> > > >
> >
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/19716
> > > >
> > > > indeed your article fairly promises to be an
> > answer to
> > > > our calls for help
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > also
> > > > about your above title
> > > > the following much older highlight from
> > > >
> >
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/1715
> > > > A very nice site about the old tp atderu:
> > > >
> > http://www.zollgeschichte.de/monatskarten/11_98.htm
> > > > To continue: click on Dreikaiserreichsecke. Lots
> > of
> > > > old postcards.
> > > >
> > > > --- Nicky Gardner <nicky@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The September 2006 issue of hidden europe
> > magazine
> > > > > has an article on the
> > > > > art of bagging tripoints. The tripoint and
> > > > > quadripoint examples it
> > > > > includes are possibly well worn examples, many
> > > > > surely well-known to
> > > > > members of this forum. But it does include a
> > report
> > > > > from the point,
> > > > > southeast of Myslowice in southern Poland,
> > where a
> > > > > hundred years ago the
> > > > > territories of three great empires met at a
> > > > > tri-point. The
> > > > > Dreikaiserreichs Ecke is nowadays a rather
> > forlorn
> > > > > spot, but there was a
> > > > > time when visiting this tripoint was seen as a
> > > > > curious excursion. There
> > > > > are many late nineteenth century postcards of
> > the
> > > > > spot, many including
> > > > > images of the Kaiser, the Tsar and the
> > Austrian
> > > > > Emperor. For those
> > > > > interested, the hidden europe website is at
> > > > > www.hiddeneurope.co.uk
> > > > > <http://www.hiddeneurope.co.uk> . The magazine
> > has
> > > > > regularly carried
> > > > > articles on aspects of life in any around
> > European
> > > > > borders.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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