thanx nicky

glad you are back
& so pleasingly mobile too

& not at all sure i understand this grid reference
system yet

& still guessing the quadripoint if any is up on the
northeast shoulder of the carriageway
above & midway between the stream & railway
underpasses
based on a close reading of the 4 boundaries etc shown
on this best known map
http://streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=501925&y=305710&z=4&sv=501925,305710&st=4&ar=Y&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf
the fairly well aimed center of which produces a grid
conversion of
tf 019057
per
http://streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?GridConvert?name=501925,305710&type=OSGrid

so to that extent i can & do very approximately agree
with sean blanchflower
even while i am up on the expressway abutment looking
down toward him in the creek bed with my neck craned
slightly left
yet close enough to share the same grid reference
number
or in other words the same hundred meter square
if i understand correctly

1000 meters east of there i get roughly this new map
center point
http://streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=502915&y=305765&z=4&sv=502915,305765&st=4&ar=Y&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf
which produces a grid conversion of tf 029057 per
http://streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?GridConvert?name=502915,305765&type=OSGrid

& in order to produce your suggested grid conversion
of tf 020057
http://streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?GridConvert?name=502020,305730&type=OSGrid
i believe i would have to be at about the arrowhead
location here
http://streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=502075&y=305745&z=4&sv=502075,305745&st=4&ar=Y&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf
or only about 100 meters east of the quadripoint shown
on this map

now of course i am still only guessing
& way over my head by now besides
but perhaps the grid ref in the hidden europe text you
mention reflects a rounding off to the nearest whole
kilometer in the grid system
plus a digital transposition typo creeping in at some
point

or anyway thats all i could think of from here that
might reconcile everything

--- Nicky Gardner <nicky@...> wrote:

> Alethiak
> You kindly posted the pointers to the Blanchflower
> website yesterday
> re that enigmatic English quadripoint. No, curiously
> that wasn't
> where I found out about it, (and I'll still working
> on getting you a
> contact from local people who thrive in an Internet
> free world). But
> Monsieur Blanchflower has surely got the Ordnance
> Survey Grid
> Reference wrong. He suggests the quadripoint is at
> TF190057. It is,
> if 'hidden europe' is to be believed, exactly 1 km
> east of that at
> TF 020057.
>
> If I am sometimes a tad slow about replying,
> apologies. I am away
> quite a lot during the present period -
> interestingly, in the Piran
> area on the still unsettled Slovenian-Croatia border
> yesterday.
> Nicky
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "aletheiak"
> <aletheiak@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > nicky
> > still very much looking forward to your coming
> issue
> > i just realized for some reason i neglected to
> mention this
> earlier
> >
>

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/19456

> > & especially
> >
>

http://www.blanchflower.org/tripoints/ca-nh-ru-li.html

> > which was the actual forgotten source & cause of
> all the stamford
> commotion here
> > & which just again inspired me to write away to
> its creator for
> the desired local help
> > since i dont agree with his quadripoint
> positioning in any case
> > & am hoping i can persuade him of mine
> > as well to go take another look for an expected
> marker up on the
> expressway
> > so hopefully please stand by for more data on this
> yet too
> >
> > but was he perhaps your unknown local informant
> with the tape
> measure etc
> > or just a coincidence i have found a kindred
> spirit in the
> neighborhood
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, aletheia
> kallos <aletheiak@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > welcome nicky & thanx for all the great news
> > > tho i got only as far as this tantalizing teaser
> page
> > >
>

http://www.hiddeneurope.co.uk/article_info.php?articles_id=244

> > > so please do follow up as soon as possible with
> the
> > > balance of the report if you can
> > > or with as much as you can if you cant
> > >
> > > in the meantime these excerpts from our recent
> ongoing
> > > & perhaps even simultaneous quest for your great
> > > english quadripoint may interest you as well as
> > > explain my excitement over seeing it evidently
> > > referred to in your article
> > >
>

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/19709

> > >
>

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/19710

> > >
>

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/19712

> > >
>

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/19714

> > >
>

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/19716

> > >
> > > indeed your article fairly promises to be an
> answer to
> > > our calls for help
> > >
> > >
> > > also
> > > about your above title
> > > the following much older highlight from
> > >
>

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/1715

> > > A very nice site about the old tp atderu:
> > >
> http://www.zollgeschichte.de/monatskarten/11_98.htm
> > > To continue: click on Dreikaiserreichsecke. Lots
> of
> > > old postcards.
> > >
> > > --- Nicky Gardner <nicky@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > The September 2006 issue of hidden europe
> magazine
> > > > has an article on the
> > > > art of bagging tripoints. The tripoint and
> > > > quadripoint examples it
> > > > includes are possibly well worn examples, many
> > > > surely well-known to
> > > > members of this forum. But it does include a
> report
> > > > from the point,
> > > > southeast of Myslowice in southern Poland,
> where a
> > > > hundred years ago the
> > > > territories of three great empires met at a
> > > > tri-point. The
> > > > Dreikaiserreichs Ecke is nowadays a rather
> forlorn
> > > > spot, but there was a
> > > > time when visiting this tripoint was seen as a
> > > > curious excursion. There
> > > > are many late nineteenth century postcards of
> the
> > > > spot, many including
> > > > images of the Kaiser, the Tsar and the
> Austrian
> > > > Emperor. For those
> > > > interested, the hidden europe website is at
> > > > www.hiddeneurope.co.uk
> > > > <http://www.hiddeneurope.co.uk> . The magazine
> has
> > > > regularly carried
> > > > articles on aspects of life in any around
> European
> > > > borders.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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