but i think where it may really have been from
is this true primer
of the extraordinary preconception & gestation of
mbmnon
http://www.profsurv.com/archive.php?issue=92&article=1292
btw can anyone figure out or find the mentioned page
14
but anyway
is this newly monumented position truly mnmnon aka mnn
or not
astonishingly
i cant at all reconcile their coords with either
bus&ss or topozone
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=15&n=5472266&e=343874&s=500&size=l&datum=nad83&layer=DRG250
which themselves also disagree hugely btw
but of course even if this new gps position was
somehow legally the true tripoint in 1872
& even if it somehow becomes retroactively recognized
as such now
still manitoba wasnt born or cornered there til 1889
what fun
can anyone elucidate further
--- In
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, aletheia kallos
<aletheiak@...> wrote:
>
> if youre asking then i can tell you it was from the
> grand forks herald
>
http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/15155717.htm
>
> but as usual the relevant mbmnon tripoint is not
> mentioned
>
> recent refresher if you need it
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/19491
>
> --- Brendan Whyte <bwhyte@...> wrote:
>
> > Not sure where this was from, but it was posted
> > today to a maps list.
> > Brendan
> >
> >
> > >ANGLE INLET: Ben got a bonus
> > >Franklin locked up Minnesota's northern 'bump'
> > thanks to a British gaffe
> > >By Ryan Bakken
> > >Herald Staff Writer
> > >
> > >That bump on the top of Minnesota map that makes
> > the Northwest Angle the
> > >property of the United States?
> > >
> > >You can thank Benjamin Franklin.
> > >
> > >At 11:30 a.m. Thursday, the early American
> > statesman will receive credit
> > >when a marker will be placed at the Angle Inlet
> > School. The dedication
> > >will be part of the annual Lake of the Woods
> > Blueberry Festival at the
> > >Angle, a popular destination of sports
enthusiasts.
> > >
> > >The marker is the work of the Friends of
Franklin,
> > an international
> > >society that is holding events worldwide to mark
> > Franklin's 300th
> > >birthday this year. The organization promotes the
> > study and scholarship
> > >of Franklin, who was a scientist, inventor and
> > philosopher as well as a
> > >statesman.
> > >
> > >Running the Northwest Angle ceremony is George
> > Waters, a Friend of
> > >Franklin who lives in Rochester, Minn. Attendees
> > will include Lt. Gov.
> > >Carol Molnau and officials of the Minnesota
> > Historical Society.
> > >
> > >"It's time to get word out about Franklin's
> > contribution to the Midwest
> > >and focus on that crazy bump," Waters said.
> > >
> > >A historic oversight
> > >
> > >The border protuberance that creates the
Northwest
> > Angle and Islands
> > >rises above the 49th parallel, the standard
border
> > marker. It makes the
> > >area the most northern part of the contiguous 48
> > states.
> > >
> > >The bulge and the inclusion of almost one-third
of
> > Minnesota's land mass
> > >was the result of a mistake.
> > >
> > >The mistake happened during negotiations of the
> > 1783 Treaty of Paris,
> > >which ended the Revolutionary War. Franklin
> > insisted that the border
> > >between the United States and Canada would be the
> > "most northernmost
> > >point" of the Lake of the Woods through the
> > Boundary Waters to Lake
> > >Superior.
> > >
> > >The British cartographer wrongly believed the
Lake
> > of the Woods led
> > >directly into Lake Superior by way of the Pigeon
> > River. The true
> > >"headwaters" of Lake Superior is the St. Louis
> > River farther to the south.
> > >
> > >A bounty of riches
> > >
> > >The mistake meant that U.S. land extended to what
> > is now known as the
> > >Arrowhead Region. The region includes the Mesabi
> > and Vermilion iron
> > >ranges that were important to the nation's
> > industrialization. It also
> > >includes tourist areas such as Northwest Angle,
> > pine forests and the
> > >valuable waterfront property along Lake
Superior's
> > North Shore.
> > >
> > >"A few years later, the British realized they had
> > made a terrible
> > >mistake," Waters said. "After the War of 1812,
they
> > tried to get the
> > >Arrowhead land back. They fussed around, but
> > Franklin had enough
> > >prestige and legacy that they left it as it was."
> > >
> > >Waters said most historians believe that Franklin
> > knew that Lake of the
> > >Woods flows north into Hudson Bay, not Lake
> > Superior. But, with the
> > >large area of land involved and the popular fur
> > trade at the time, he
> > >didn't share that knowledge with the British.
> > >
> > >"So many of things about him are so fascinating,"
> > Waters said.
> > >Bakken reports on local news and writes a column.
> > Reach him at 780-1125,
> > >(800) 477-6572 ext. 125 or rbakken@...
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