haha yes well i dont think debate is ever required
tho these points might ultimately be rightly characterized
as legally definite
or as legal but indefinite
or hypothetical
or notional
or conventional but bogus
or projected
or proposed
etc etc
but
of course
if i really had to take a side
or a stand
yikes
then i do stand for as long as possible in favor of the harmonics of the 44 most
presumptive tripoints of japan with those of the berkshires & europe
knowing full well this appearance
like all appearances
must sooner or later fade away
whether on the leading edge of history or perception
but my guess is that historic developments in kosovo or belarus will force me to retire
from the debate or symphony sooner than our shared perception of japan
--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Hugh Wallis" <hugh@o...> wrote:
>
> That is what I meant when I said "which may require some research and debate
> as to whether they qualify as genuine tripoints"
>
> On the Kodansha map the sea there is marked "inland sea" FWIW
>
> Cheer
>
> Hugh
>
>
> _____
>
> From: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of aletheiak
> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 8:41 AM
> To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: My last 3 Japanese Tripoints
>
>
> also worth bearing in mind hugh
> tho i havent been able to access your kodansha scan of the 4 maritime
> tripoint prospects
> & cant say if googlemaps for japan might be any more reliable than say for
> oh canada
> i do very much believe that the 4 maritime provincial tripoints indicated
> here for example
> http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=47.159840,
> -61.798096&spn=3.527161,7.159790&hl=en
> & on many other maps
> namely nbnspe nbpeqc nspeqc & nlnsqc
> are all totally bogus legally
> since canadian provinces actually have no seas beyond their low tide lines
> oops
> even if they are just beginning to have something resembling provincial
> seabed eezs
>
> any or all of which may or may not prove to be the case with japanese
> prefectures also
>
> so i would say legal confirmation is definitely needed & wanted for these
> japanese fab 4
> which could yet prove to be just as elusive as for the canadian fab 4
>
> it is perhaps just another easy research question for a specially qualified
> local informant
> tho
> within the larger but perhaps also easy question of
> exactly by what means are all these prefectural borders & tripoints legally
> defined
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Hugh Wallis" <hugh@o...> wrote:
> >
> > OK- watchizu does not show maritime boundaries. However Yahoo does as
> > follows
> >
> > Yamaguchi-Hiroshima-Ehime - http://map.yahoo.co.jp/pl?nl=34.00.00
> > <http://map.yahoo.co.jp/pl?nl=34.00.00
> <http://map.yahoo.co.jp/pl?nl=34.00.00&el=132.30.00&la=1&fi=1&sc=7>
> &el=132.30.00&la=1&fi=1&sc=7>
> > &el=132.30.00&la=1&fi=1&sc=7
> >
> > Hiroshima Ehime-Kagawa and Hiroshima-Kagawa-Okayama -
> > http://map.yahoo.co.jp/pl?nl=34.19.20.304
> > <http://map.yahoo.co.jp/pl?nl=34.19.20.304
> <http://map.yahoo.co.jp/pl?nl=34.19.20.304&el=133.40.5.163&la=1&sc=7&ML.x=8&
> > &el=133.40.5.163&la=1&sc=7&ML.x=8&
> > ML.y=6> &el=133.40.5.163&la=1&sc=7&ML.x=8&ML.y=6
> >
> > Okayama-Kagawa-Hyogo - http://map.yahoo.co.jp/pl?nl=34.19.20.304
> > <http://map.yahoo.co.jp/pl?nl=34.19.20.304
> <http://map.yahoo.co.jp/pl?nl=34.19.20.304&el=134.3.25.961&la=1&sc=7&RU.x=10
> > &el=134.3.25.961&la=1&sc=7&RU.x=10
> > &RU.y=3> &el=134.3.25.961&la=1&sc=7&RU.x=10&RU.y=3
> >
> > and you can zoom in and out and move around on these too
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Hugh
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of Hugh Wallis
> > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:20 PM
> > To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [BoundaryPoint] Re: My last 3 Japanese Tripoints
> >
> >
> > Attached is a scan of the relevant page from the Kodansha bilingual
> Japanese
> > atlas showing the possible maritime tripoints. I'll figure out the correct
> > topos shortly too
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Hugh
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of aletheiak
> > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:04 PM
> > To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: My last 3 Japanese Tripoints
> >
> >
> > actually i have already done most of that exercise for the reader at
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/17423
> > possibly the very email you mention
> > as well as begun some of the other exercises you are also undertaking here
> > now
> > tho a complete set of hexaglyphs is probably what is most needed next
> > for clarity simplicity ease convenience titillation etc
> > so maybe thats for me to try on the next moonless night
> > while i am also still assimilating all your findings
> >
> > &
> > i still cant speak with any confidence beyond the apparently magical
> number
> > of 44
> > since i havent found a map that actually shows or even intimates more than
> > these 44
> > & dont read japanese or legalese very well
> > but i suppose maritime tripoints are still possible just as you suggest
> >
> > & it is any clear confirmation of such hypothetical possibilities than is
> > still really needed
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Hugh Wallis" <hugh@o...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I believe at least 5 are wet - notably:
> > >
> > > Gifu Mie Aichi
> > > Nagano Aichi Shizuoka
> > > Tochigi Saitama Ibaraki
> > > Ibaraki Saitama Chiba
> > > Saitama Tokyo Chiba
> > >
> > > One I would characterise as damp (being in a marshy area according to
> the
> > > topo maps) - notably:
> > >
> > > Niigata Gumma Fukushima
> > >
> > > There may be other wet ones that I just haven't had time to check the
> maps
> > > for
> > >
> > > Also there are 4 possible additional ones (over and above the 44 you
> > > identified in an earlier e-mail) that lie in the waters between the
> > islands
> > > of Shikoku and Honshu which may require some research and debate as to
> > > whether they qualify as genuine tripoints (i.e., how wet is wet?) -
> > notably:
> > >
> > > Hiroshima Yamaguchi Ehime
> > > Hiroshima Ehime Kagawa
> > > Okayama Hiroshima Kagawa
> > > Okayama Kagawa Hyogo
> > >
> > > (Apologies for not getting them in correct alphabetical order but I'll
> > leave
> > > that as a exercise to the reader :)
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Hugh
> > >
> > > P.S. Just for the record here are all of them working from South West to
> > > North East - I have also included prefectures that have no tripoints by
> > > identifying those prefectures with which they have a border:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Island Pref 1 Pref 2 Pref 3 Lat/Long
> > >
> > > Kyushu Nagasaki Saga
> > > Kyushu Saga Fukuoka
> > >
> > > Kyushu Kumamoto Kagoshima Miyazaki
> > > Kyushu Oita Kumamoto Miyazaki
> > > Kyushu Fukuoka Kumamoto Oita
> > >
> > > Shikoku Ehime Kochi Tokushima
> > > Shikoku Kagawa Ehime Tokushima
> > >
> > > Honshu Shimane Yamaguchi Hiroshima
> > > Honshu Tottori Shimane Hiroshima
> > > Honshu Tottori Hiroshima Okayama
> > > Honshu Hyogo Tottori Okayama
> > > Honshu Kyoto Hyogo Osaka
> > > Honshu Osaka Wakayama Nara 34°22.986'N, 135°39.066'E
> >
> > > Honshu Kyoto Osaka Nara 34°46.668'N, 135°43.715'E
> >
> > > Honshu Nara Wakayama Mie
> > > Honshu Fukui Kyoto Shiga 35°21.349'N, 135°46.120'E
> >
> > > Honshu Kyoto Nara Mie 34°44.299'N, 136°03.330'E
> >
> > > Honshu Shiga Kyoto Mie 34°47.477'N, 136°01.334'E
> >
> > > Honshu Fukui Shiga Gifu 35°39.506'N, 136°16.837'E
> >
> > > Honshu Gifu Shiga Mie 35°13.058'N, 136°24.903'E
>
> > > Honshu Gifu Mie Aichi 35°08.077'N, 136°40.368'E
>
> > > Honshu Ishikawa Fukui Gifu 36°05.164'N, 136°45.242'E
> >
> > > Honshu Toyama Ishikawa Gifu 36°17.948'N,
> 136°47.535'E
> >
> > > Honshu Nagano Gifu Aichi 35°17.345'N, 137°33.712'E
> >
> > > Honshu Nagano Toyama Gifu 36°23.380'N, 137°35.230'E
> >
> > > Honshu Niigata Toyama Nagano 36°45.962'N,
> 137°45.743'E
> >
> > > Honshu Nagano Aichi Shizuoka 35°12.734'N,
> 137°50.283'E
> >
> > > Honshu Nagano Shizuoka Yamanashi 35°38.661'N,
> > 138°13.119'E
> > >
> > > Honshu Saitama Nagano Yamanashi 35°54.541'N,
> > 138°43.742'E
> > >
> > > Honshu Gumma Nagano Saitama 35°59.109'N,
> 138°42.748'E
> >
> > > Honshu Niigata Nagano Gumma 36°44.297'N,
> 138°41.756'E
> >
> > > Honshu Yamanashi Shizuoka Kanagawa 35°24.026'N,
> > > 138°54.974'E
> > > Honshu Saitama Yamanashi Tokyo 35°51.276'N,
> > 138°56.625'E
> > >
> > > Honshu Tokyo Yamanashi Kanagawa 35°40.312'N,
> > 139°07.859'E
> > >
> > > Honshu Niigata Gumma Fukushima 36°56.422'N,
> > 139°13.907'E
> > >
> > > Honshu Fukushima Gumma Tochigi 36°54.632'N,
> > 139°23.594'E
> > >
> > > Honshu Tochigi Gumma Saitama 36°12.421'N,
> 139°39.853'E
> > >
> > > Honshu Tochigi Saitama Ibaraki 36°11.968'N,
> > > 139°41.263'E
> > > Honshu Ibaraki Saitama Chiba 36°05.438'N,
> 139°46.562'E
> > >
> > > Honshu Saitama Tokyo Chiba 35°46.954'N, 139°53.613'E
> >
> > > Honshu Fukushima Tochigi Ibaraki 36°55.990'N,
> > > 140°15.853'E
> > > Honshu Yamagata Niigata Fukushima
> > > Honshu Miyagi Yamagata Fukushima
> > > Honshu Akita Yamagata Miyagi
> > > Honshu Akita Miyagi Iwate
> > > Honshu Aomori Akita Iwate
> > >
> > > Sea Hiroshima Yamaguchi Ehime
> > > Sea Hiroshima Ehime Kagawa
> > > Sea Okayama Hiroshima Kagawa
> > > Sea Okayama Kagawa Hyogo
> > >
> > > Hokkaido Hokkaido
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]
> > > On Behalf Of aletheia kallos
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:06 AM
> > > To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: RE: [BoundaryPoint] Re: My last 3 Japanese Tripoints
> > >
> > >
> > > thanx i immediately understood or even anticipated all
> > > this
> > > as i had already dropped my class d guess myself last
> > > night
> > > as soon as i realized there just isnt enough parallax
> > > between the 2 long views to support it
> > > while i am not at all surprised to find our 922 tower
> > > guesses & all your other data confirmations
> > > do match up with mine so perfectly
> > >
> > > so yes i do very much see & agree now
> > >
> > > the tripoint will be found way closer to the
> > > nonviewing tower than my imagined marker
> > > & at something very much more on the order of only 2
> > > degrees to the left of that tower
> > > rather than 20 degrees
> > > oops
> > > hahahaha
> > >
> > > in fact almost closer to its base than is its own apex
> > >
> > > but so much the more likely obscured rather than
> > > highlighted by veggies
> > >
> > > & thus elusive after all
> > >
> > >
> > > but i would love to walk those last 100 or so steps
> > > up
> > > the communications tower first btw
> > > even if only just for the previewing of the tripoint &
> > > immediate triarea
> > >
> > > for this tower
> > > rather than your viewing tower properly so called
> > > could well prove to be the worlds most magnificent
> > > tripoint viewing tower
> > >
> > >
> > > & to climb those steps btw not only for that obvious
> > > reason
> > > but also to at least address & relish the probability
> > > in that tower
> > > of reaching some absolutely true
> > > rather than conveniently compromised & moderated
> > > altitudinal extremity
> > > of some real place perhaps
> > > even if not a whole prefecture
> > > & conceivably even of 2 real places at once
> > > in view of its ridge line borderline location
> > >
> > > & even if actually shimmying up to the very top of the
> > > tower proves impossible
> > >
> > > or even if the altitude of the top of the peak tower
> > > proves higher
> > >
> > > albeit luckily higher in both those places at once
> > > also
> > > hahaha
> > > for happily too it looks like a close call between
> > > these state line tower tops for the altimeters
> > >
> > >
> > > & i am also pleased to add to your overall analysis
> > > that my admittedly still crude & preliminary
> > > punctoscopy of the prefectural tripoints of japan
> > > suggests that as many as 36 of the probably 44 of them
> > > in all are in fact dry
> > >
> > > so we have many more prospective markers to at least
> > > try for
> > >
> > > in fact japan is looking almost as good in this regard
> > > as the berkshire county town tripoints
> > > where i am still at least expecting & hoping for all
> > > 44 markers out of all 44 tripoints
> > >
> > >
> > > but of course every try is its own reward too
> > > whether wet dry marked unmarked or even known at all
> > > & i very much enjoyed & appreciated all 5 of yours
> > > here in its & their own right too
> > >
> > > --- Hugh Wallis <hugh@o...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > OK - let me try to set the stage a bit better.
> > > >
> > > > The tower you see in my photograph is not a viewing
> > > > tower as far as I can
> > > > tell - it looks more like a communications tower. My
> > > > photo was taken from
> > > > the top of the viewing tower which is what I paid
> > > > 100 yen (which is only
> > > > about CDN 1.00) to go up and which is the white
> > > > tower pictured on the right
> > > > hand side of the ticket.
> > > >
> > > > The radio tower is the taller of the two towers but
> > > > lower down as you
> > > > surmise and is approximately at the point on the map
> > > > marked with a spot
> > > > height of 922m I would guess. The viewing tower is
> > > > approximately at the
> > > > point on the map marked as a trig point (with a
> > > > triangle) - about 100m from
> > > > the geocache. My GPSr indicated that the tripoint
> > > > was approximately 800m
> > > > from the viewing tower in the direction of the radio
> > > > tower. From the map I
> > > > conclude that it is beyond the radio tower.
> > > >
> > > > I see the white post you refer to but, from the
> > > > above analysis and the map I
> > > > would think this is unlikely to be the tripoint
> > > > marker since it seems to be
> > > > too far to the left to my thinking.
> > > >
> > > > From my observations at the four dry tries I made
> > > > (and, indeed, the wet one)
> > > > I conclude at this stage that boundary and tripoint
> > > > marking is sporadic in
> > > > Japan. Some of the markers I photographed (the stone
> > > > ones) appear to be
> > > > older, some newer, and some (the plastic ones which
> > > > are very firmly embedded
> > > > in the ground, by the way - I did try tugging on
> > > > them) very new indeed,
> > > > possibly recently surveyed for specfic reasons such
> > > > as the construction of
> > > > the golf course etc. It is also instructive that in
> > > > the area of
> > > > Kanagawa-Shizuoka-Yamanashi, the only border markers
> > > > I could locate were
> > > > those on the Kanagawa-Yamanashi and the
> > > > Shizuoka-Kanagawa borders - the
> > > > Shizuoka-Yamanashi border did not appear to be
> > > > marked, providing further
> > > > evidence for my supposition.
> > > >
> > > > In summary - I don't think that all dry tripoints in
> > > > Japan are physically
> > > > marked on the ground.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > Hugh
> > > >
> > > > _____
> > > >
> > > > From: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > > > [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]
> > > > On Behalf Of aletheiak
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:19 PM
> > > > To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: My last 3 Japanese
> > > > Tripoints
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > now hugh about fsibtc again
> > > > at the bottom of http://tinyurl.com/9gzsz
> > > > i have still not been able to get completely clear
> > > >
> > > > you say there is a viewing tower at the top of the
> > > > mountain
> > > > & you show 2 towers
> > > > either one of which could conceivably be the one you
> > > > mean
> > > >
> > > > but then i also would have just guessed you
> > > > photographed the taller but
> > > > apparently lower
> > > > tower from the shorter but apparently higher one
> > > > that is
> > > > until i saw the 100 yen price tag on the latter
> > > >
> > > > &
> > > > the slight difference between the 2 viewing angles
> > > > of this taller lower
> > > > tower also suggests
> > > > you may have taken your magnificent panoramic
> > > > atmospheric photo of it not
> > > > from the
> > > > actual summit & small tower & geocache point
> > > > necessarily at all
> > > > like the other one
> > > > if indeed they were all 3 of them at this singular
> > > > mountaintop location
> > > > as perhaps hinted by you & the gcm5pp dot & or
> > > > nearby triangle on your map
> > > > swatch
> > > > but rather
> > > > from perhaps much closer to the bottom center of
> > > > this map swatch
> > > > i would guess
> > > > where you also evidently passed
> > > >
> > > > & i have guessed this
> > > > as well as provisionally placed the tall tower on
> > > > the elevation point
> > > > indicated as 922 on the
> > > > map swatch
> > > > just for lack of anything more definitive to go on
> > > > which perhaps you can still provide in correction
> > > >
> > > > & then
> > > > continuing hypothetically by measuring the viewing
> > > > angle toward the tripoint
> > > > at about 20
> > > > degrees left of the centered tower based on all the
> > > > above surmises
> > > > lo & behold
> > > > what do i see there in plain view but a tall thin
> > > > white post
> > > > in a light brown patch set off by a dark green
> > > > background
> > > > at roughly kilometric range
> > > > about midway between the tower & the power pole line
> > > > cum perhaps roadway to
> > > > its left
> > > >
> > > > but do you follow any of this or
> > > > more importantly
> > > > do you
> > > > s e e
> > > > in your pic the object i am talking about
> > > >
> > > > for thats a clear class d guess
> > > > rather than some impossibly elusive class e hope
> > > >
> > > > or has my imagination run away from us already
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > but anyway
> > > > while you are mulling & or laughing over that
> > > > a perhaps bigger question
> > > > now that we have had serious tries at so many as 4
> > > > dry ones
> > > > is
> > > > do you imagine they are all in fact marked
> > > > with some just being more elusive than others for
> > > > various reasons
> > > > or do you suppose they are indifferently &
> > > > haphazardly marked as chance
> > > > would have it
> > > >
> > > > in other words
> > > > given sufficient time & care & luck etc
> > > > from all youve seen & been able to learn for sure as
> > > > well as just guess
> > > > do you think you would have bagged all 4 of these
> > > > class a
> > > > just like you surely did with knszyn
> > > > & that we can therefore still expect or hope there
> > > > are as many marked
> > > > prefectural tripoints
> > > > in japan as there are dry ones
> > > >
> > > > or is it still too soon to hazard any such
> > > > generalization
> > > >
> > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Hugh Wallis"
> > > > <hugh@o...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Report is now available at
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/Japan_2005-11-12_to_2005-11-1
> > > > > 4/ - a.k.a. http://tinyurl.com/9gzsz
> > > > >
> > > > > This covers my visits to:
> > > > >
> > > > > Kyoto-Mie-Nara
> > > > > Kanagawa-Shizuoka-Yamanashi
> > > > >
> > > > > and
> > > > >
> > > > > Ibaraki -Fukushima-Tochigi
> > > > >
> > > > > Enjoy
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Hugh
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > === message truncated ===
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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