ahh thanx again
its always livelier when you are active
& of course i scarfed them all
but was most grateful to see here the highly pertinent
confirmation
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Facts+About+Israel/Israel+in+Maps/Judea+and+Samaria.htm
that even israel herself cant clearly distinguish or
discern judea from samaria
er perhaps not entirely unlike bosnegovinia
&
even more gratified to see here
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Facts+About+Israel/Israel+in+Maps/The+Security+Fence+vs.+Terrorism.htm
that the present & foreseeable wall locations wont
substantially alter if at all the best projected
iljops tripoint positions both north & south
&
especially entertained to see here
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Facts+About+Israel/Israel+in+Maps/Israel+Size+Comparisons.htm
how small next to israel texas seems but particularly
germany & yikes can you believe the uk
--- "Lowell G. McManus" <
mcmanus71496@...> wrote:
> There is a wealth of Israeli maps, ancient,
> historic, recent, and current, at
> http://tinyurl.com/bvrnt on the State of Israel
> Ministry of Foreign Affairs web
> site.
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 3:27 PM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] oops was judea & samaria
> tripoints was re still looking
> like an eggzil tripoint border post etc
>
>
> > apologies & please disregard previous tripoint
> quest
> > request if you havent already
> >
> >
> > for here is a still vaguer yet somehow trustier
> > assertion that the boundary between samaria &
> judea is
> > not physically well defined
> > but may merely
> > be thought of
> > hahaha
> > as passing some 15 km north of jerusalem
> >
>
http://www.unu.edu/unupress/unupbooks/80858e/80858E0l.htm
> > in the third paragraph under israel topography
> > along with some other persuasive particulars
> > which pretty well bust my last best hopes
> > based on the previous text i flashed
> > of the precise point being on this map
> >
>
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/westbank_jericho92.jpg
> > say where the main road to jericho descends from
> > either mount scopus or al ayzariyah
> >
> > for i realize the new expert testimony given above
> > must place the immediate jmjusa triarea as far
> north
> > as al birah if not also slightly to the east of
> there
> > & thus it implicitly extends or fudges the greater
> > jerusalem area at least that far north & east too
> > a notion which tho possibly not so surprising
> > does nevertheless pretty well end any punctilious
> > search for a jerusalem judea samaria tripoint
> properly
> > so called
> >
> > but it was a nice try while it lasted
> > or in case it can be revived
> >
> > --- aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...> wrote:
> >
> >> here is a vague assertion that the judea samaria
> >> line
> >> runs generally from jerusalem to the dead sea
> >>
> >
>
http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_early_palestine_judea_samaria.php
> >>
> >> so i suppose there is little to no hope of
> locating
> >> a
> >> judea & samaria tripoint with jordan
> >> at the east end of this supposed line
> >> nor even of distinguishing such a tripoint from
> the
> >> already mentioned hdmdwb aka prospective iljopss
> for
> >> that matter
> >> which is also situated
> >> if a bit less vaguely
> >> in the dead sea
> >>
> >> but the westward judea & samaria tripoint
> >> in jerusalem
> >> if any
> >> could yet prove to be no problem at all
> >>
> >> yo
> >> asher are you still there
> >>
> >> &
> >> is there any chance you could find us a tripoint
> >> living or ghost
> >> that would answer to the name of jerusalem judea
> >> samaria
> >> or jmjusa perhaps for short
> >>
> >> & i dont know where one might even begin to look
> for
> >> it
> >> unless there is some historic or actual
> easternmost
> >> projection of jerusalem from which such a
> dividing
> >> line might naturally have sprung forth
> >>
> >>
> >> here is an also interesting philological
> accounting
> >> for the names at least
> >> of judea & samaria among others
> >> http://www.esek.com/jerusalem/iudaea.html
> >> which btw
> >> along with commonest usage
> >> has led me to deromanize my spelling of judea
> >> oops
> >>
> >> --- aletheiak <aletheiak@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> > first thanx to lowell for the further
> elucidations
> >> > &
> >> > i must correct or rather improve upon myself
> also
> >> > regarding not only eggzil but all 3 prospective
> >> > palestinian world class tripoints
> >> > as follows
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > to even call eggzil or egilps by these names is
> of
> >> > course way too casual
> >> > as well as presumptious
> >> > but in any case
> >> > the actual subdivisional tripoint it represents
> is
> >> > truly neither egil2eggzil nor egil2egilps
> >> > & we are in fact even now just feeling our way
> to
> >> > its technically correct name
> >> >
> >> > certainly it is egil2 plus something or other
> >> xxyyzz
> >> > for the actual tripoint constituencies
> >> > & since gaza or gz isnt known to be officially
> >> > subdivided
> >> > & since the convergent district of israel is
> the
> >> > southern or hadarom aka hd
> >> > & since the convergent governorate of egypt is
> >> > shamal sina or ss
> >> > this present resultant tripoint at kerem shalom
> is
> >> > evidently or most likely egil2gzhdss
> >> > even as we scribble
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > the situation with the other 2 israel palestine
> >> > tripoint hopefuls is far more complicated tho
> >> >
> >> > for one thing both putative localities still
> fall
> >> > within israeli settlement blocs
> >> > as this map shows in solid green
> >> >
> http://www.biu.ac.il/SOC/besa/books/maps/map4.jpg
> >> >
> >> > in fact if all these solid green areas were to
> be
> >> > annexed to israel
> >> > no israel jordan palestine tripoints at all
> would
> >> > emerge
> >> >
> >> > but on the admittedly very shaky assumptions
> that
> >> > both of these west bank corners are
> >> > still recognizable as the 2nd & 3rd ilps
> tripoints
> >> > when palestine has fully emerged
> >> > & also that no other palestine tripoints come
> into
> >> > focus in the meantime
> >> > then of course they will become simply iljopsn
> &
> >> > iljopss respectively
> >> >
> >> > but iljops tripoints or iljo2iljops tripoints
> are
> >> > not at all what they are now
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > in this case they are both on iljo2 all right
> >> > but
> >> > again leaving aside the doubtful question of
> >> > palestinian subdivision
> >> > the northerly one
> >> > since it combines the west bank wb & hazafon hz
> or
> >> > northern district of israel with the
> >> > irbid ir province of jordan
>
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