darchen indeed survives in pages & pages of pix & maps
http://images.google.com/images?q=kailash%20darchen&num=20&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en&sa=N&tab=wi
where you may even see the promised toilet
--- "L. A. Nadybal" <
lnadybal@...> wrote:
> Did you take any pictures?
> I'd love to see what the place looked like.
> Len
>
>
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Wolfgang
> Schaub"
> <Wolfgang.Schaub@c...> wrote:
> > Having been there as such is enough.
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag
> von L. A. Nadybal
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. Juni 2005 04:17
> > An: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > Betreff: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Bhutan Exclaves in
> Tibet
> >
> >
> > You weren't - it was gone by then.
> > Best I can do for you was that you were in a
> former Bhutanese exclave.
> > Or, if you are a purist, and consider that it
> still is Bhutanese, then
> > you were in an occupied Bhutanese exclave.
> Which do you prefer?
> > Len
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Wolfgang
> Schaub"
> > <Wolfgang.Schaub@c...> wrote:
> > > Darchen! Unbelievable! Never had I thought
> that I was in a Bhutanese
> > exclave
> > > when I circled around Mt Kailash in September
> 1994.
> > >
> > > Darchen consisted - at that time - of an
> assembly of Tibetan
> > dwellings, a
> > > "poor" caravanseray-type restaurant/hotel and
> the idea of a toilet
> > located
> > > over a small stream, open to the curious views
> of the locals (How do
> > they do
> > > it, those Westerners? Is it true that theis is
> longer than ours?)
> > >
> > > Close-by, behind a wall, the Chinese began
> building a "true" hotel.
> > At least
> > > they had been able, to that point, affixing a
> metal plaque at
> the wall
> > > describing in glorious language what their
> intentions were.
> > >
> > > There were also Tibetan (prostitutes?) who
> believed they should
> > behave and
> > > clothe like Chinese - ridiculous - deplorabe?
> > >
> > > Now, as I hear, they are building a road
> around Mt Kailash, to
> > attract more
> > > tourists. I see with pleasure that tourists
> will fly in Through
> Lhasa,
> > > travel without acclimatization to Darchen,
> step out of their car on
> > the pass
> > > behind Mt Kailash - 5600 m high - and
> collapse. What a nice
> > experience must
> > > that be!
> > >
> > > Good luck to Darchen. You won't survive.
> > >
> > > Wolfgang
> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]Im
> Auftrag von L. A. Nadybal
> > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Juni 2005 06:41
> > > An: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > > Betreff: [BoundaryPoint] Bhutan Exclaves in
> Tibet
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Chris... here is what I dreamt up
> about the subject:
> > >
> > > a. There were seven Bhutanese exclaves.
> > > b. Their names were:
> > > - Taharen (also: Darchen / Tarchen
> and [to the Chinese:
> > Daerjing)
> > > - Tsehher
> > > - Diraphu
> > > - Dzung Tuphu
> > > - Jangeke
> > > - Chahip
> > > - Cooha
> > >
> > > c. Darchen was the administrative
> capital of the region,
> located
> > > at 80'20" E and 30'55" N, about 100 yeards
> from the foothills
> of Mt.
> > > Kailash. Kailash is about 100 miles
> directly north of the
> > > northwesternmost tip of Nepal - a good 300
> to 400 miles from
> Bhutan,
> > > regardless of whether you are a walking or
> flying crow.
> According to
> > > literature, Darchen under the Bhutanese
> consisted of a temple,
> a "poor
> > > restaurant" and a teahouse.
> > > d. To the Bhutanese, theses possessions
> were collectively
> known as
> > > "Northern Kangri".
> > > e. In 1949, Bhutan's entered into the
> treaty with India about
> > > which you read in a couple of messages
> earlier, under which it
> agreed
> > > to be "guided" by India (not subservient to
> India) with
> respect to its
> > > foreign relations. The treaty replaced the
> earlier one that
> it had
> > > with the UK, which had quit India. Under
> the treaty, the
> Bhutanese
> > > sought out Indian assistance in getting a
> complaint lodged
> with China
> > > about the Chinese interfering with the
> Bhutanese government's
> > > official courier to the area, and for
> preventing the courier from
> > > seeking protection of the Indians at the
> Indian Trade Agency
> offices
> > > in Tibet.
> > > On 19 August 1959, India issued a letter of
> protest to China about
> > > this matter on Bhutan's behalf.
> > > f. Shortly after the complaint was
> filed, Chinese soldiers
> > > occupied the exclaves. Another complaint
> letter was requested
> and was
> > > issued, but to no avail.
> > > g. Shortly after that, Bhutan closed its
> border with Tibet
> (it is
> > > still closed to this day). It withdrew the
> Lamas from the embassy
> > > (called a "trade mission" by British envoy
> Williamson in his
> map of
> > > Lhasa) and the exclaves and essentially
> abandoned them. (I've
> heard
> > > that the former governor from the exclaves
> is alive today and
> living
> > > in Bhutan).
> > > h. Bhutan also possesses a Stupa near
> Kathhmandu. It may
> be only
> > > extraterritorial - I've not been able to
> ascertain that.
> > > i. Bhutan also possesses or possessed
> two plots of land in
> > > Kalimpong, India, which were left to it when
> the rest of what was
> > > known under British rule as "British Bhutan"
> - an area SW of
> Bhutan
> > > and S of Sikkim, which Britain annexed in
> the 1860s in
> retribution for
> > > Bhutanese acts that caused the Duar War. A
> Bhutanese post office
> > > operated there in the early to mid 1960s.
> On these plots
> there are
> > > what are known as the Old and New Bhutan
> Houses. They were
> owned by
> > > the royal family, which I hear placed one or
> both
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