Subject: AW: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Bhutan Exclaves in Tibet
Date: Jun 30, 2005 @ 06:30
Author: Wolfgang Schaub ("Wolfgang Schaub" <Wolfgang.Schaub@...>)
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Good grief, yes, the toilet. Well, however.... while the upper right picture shows exactly what is still in my memory of the "hotel", except that the arm-chairs for the dogs are now missing, the toilet seems to have changed location. Or, perhaps, it is integrated now in the new Chinese hotel complex, which one would expect would mean it enjoys an upgraded standard now.
 
However, it seems to be removed from the stream which had previously served nicely as a continuous flushing. Probably the toilet has now fallen back to the standard Chinese format where stalagmites grow against your ass through the hole.
 
Wolfgang
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von aletheia kallos
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Juni 2005 04:10
An: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Bhutan Exclaves in Tibet

darchen indeed survives in pages & pages of pix & maps
http://images.google.com/images?q=kailash%20darchen&num=20&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en&sa=N&tab=wi
where you may even see the promised toilet

--- "L. A. Nadybal" <lnadybal@...> wrote:

> Did you take any pictures?
> I'd love to see what the place looked like.
> Len
>
>
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Wolfgang
> Schaub"
> <Wolfgang.Schaub@c...> wrote:
> > Having been there as such is enough.
> >   -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >   Von: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag
> von L. A. Nadybal
> >   Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. Juni 2005 04:17
> >   An: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> >   Betreff: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Bhutan Exclaves in
> Tibet
> >
> >
> >   You weren't - it was gone by then.
> >   Best I can do for you was that you were in a
> former Bhutanese exclave.
> >   Or, if you are a purist, and consider that it
> still is Bhutanese, then
> >   you were in an occupied Bhutanese exclave.
> Which do you prefer?
> >   Len
> >
> >   --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Wolfgang
> Schaub"
> >   <Wolfgang.Schaub@c...> wrote:
> >   > Darchen! Unbelievable! Never had I thought
> that I was in a Bhutanese
> >   exclave
> >   > when I circled around Mt Kailash in September
> 1994.
> >   >
> >   > Darchen consisted - at that time - of an
> assembly of Tibetan
> >   dwellings, a
> >   > "poor" caravanseray-type restaurant/hotel and
> the idea of a toilet
> >   located
> >   > over a small stream, open to the curious views
> of the locals (How do
> >   they do
> >   > it, those Westerners? Is it true that theis is
> longer than ours?)
> >   >
> >   > Close-by, behind a wall, the Chinese began
> building a "true" hotel.
> >   At least
> >   > they had been able, to that point, affixing a
> metal plaque at
> the wall
> >   > describing in glorious language what their
> intentions were.
> >   >
> >   > There were also Tibetan (prostitutes?) who
> believed they should
> >   behave and
> >   > clothe like Chinese - ridiculous - deplorabe?
> >   >
> >   > Now, as I hear, they are building a road
> around Mt Kailash, to
> >   attract more
> >   > tourists. I see with pleasure that tourists
> will fly in Through
> Lhasa,
> >   > travel without acclimatization to Darchen,
> step out of their car on
> >   the pass
> >   > behind Mt Kailash - 5600 m high - and
> collapse. What a nice
> >   experience must
> >   > that be!
> >   >
> >   > Good luck to Darchen. You won't survive.
> >   >
> >   > Wolfgang
> >   >   -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >   >   Von: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> >   > [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]Im
> Auftrag von L. A. Nadybal
> >   >   Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Juni 2005 06:41
> >   >   An: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> >   >   Betreff: [BoundaryPoint] Bhutan Exclaves in
> Tibet
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >   Thanks Chris... here is what I dreamt up
> about the subject:
> >   >
> >   >      a.  There were seven Bhutanese exclaves.
> >   >      b.  Their names were:
> >   >          -  Taharen (also: Darchen / Tarchen
> and [to the Chinese:
> >   Daerjing)
> >   >          -  Tsehher
> >   >          -  Diraphu
> >   >          -  Dzung Tuphu
> >   >          -  Jangeke
> >   >          -  Chahip
> >   >          -  Cooha
> >   >
> >   >      c.  Darchen was the administrative
> capital of the region,
> located
> >   >   at 80'20" E and 30'55" N, about 100 yeards
> from the foothills
> of Mt.
> >   >   Kailash.  Kailash is about 100 miles
> directly north of the
> >   >   northwesternmost tip of Nepal - a good 300
> to 400 miles from
> Bhutan,
> >   >   regardless of whether you are a walking or
> flying crow.
> According to
> >   >   literature, Darchen under the Bhutanese
> consisted of a temple,
> a "poor
> >   >   restaurant" and a teahouse.
> >   >      d.  To the Bhutanese, theses possessions
> were collectively
> known as
> >   >   "Northern Kangri".
> >   >      e.  In 1949, Bhutan's entered into the
> treaty with India about
> >   >   which you read in a couple of messages
> earlier, under which it
> agreed
> >   >   to be "guided" by India (not subservient to
> India) with
> respect to its
> >   >   foreign relations.  The treaty replaced the
> earlier one that
> it had
> >   >   with the UK, which had quit India.  Under
> the treaty, the
> Bhutanese
> >   >   sought out Indian assistance in getting a
> complaint lodged
> with China
> >   >   about the Chinese interfering with the
> Bhutanese government's
> >   >   official courier to the area, and for
> preventing the courier from
> >   >   seeking protection of the Indians at the
> Indian Trade Agency
> offices
> >   >   in Tibet.
> >   >   On 19 August 1959, India issued a letter of
> protest to China about
> >   >   this matter on Bhutan's behalf.
> >   >      f.  Shortly after the complaint was
> filed, Chinese soldiers
> >   >   occupied the exclaves.  Another complaint
> letter was requested
> and was
> >   >   issued, but to no avail.
> >   >      g.  Shortly after that, Bhutan closed its
> border with Tibet
> (it is
> >   >   still closed to this day).  It withdrew the
> Lamas from the embassy
> >   >   (called a "trade mission" by British envoy
> Williamson in his
> map of
> >   >   Lhasa) and the exclaves and essentially
> abandoned them.  (I've
> heard
> >   >   that the former governor from the exclaves
> is alive today and
> living
> >   >   in Bhutan).
> >   >      h.  Bhutan also possesses a Stupa near
> Kathhmandu.  It may
> be only
> >   >   extraterritorial - I've not been able to
> ascertain that.
> >   >      i.  Bhutan also possesses or possessed
> two plots of land in
> >   >   Kalimpong, India, which were left to it when
> the rest of what was
> >   >   known under British rule as "British Bhutan"
> - an area SW of
> Bhutan
> >   >   and S of Sikkim, which Britain annexed in
> the 1860s in
> retribution for
> >   >   Bhutanese acts that caused the Duar War.  A
> Bhutanese post office
> >   >   operated there in the early to mid 1960s.
> On these plots
> there are
> >   >   what are known as the Old and New Bhutan
> Houses.  They were
> owned by
> >   >   the royal family, which I hear placed one or
> both
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