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BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Henry Hirose" <silentcity@h...> wrote:
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "aletheiak" <aletheiak@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > this remarkable location may be found on the border between
> prefectures 9 & 26
> > about a quarter of the way up from prefecture 1 to prefecture 43
> >
> http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/japan_divisions.j
> pg
> > so i realize it doesnt affect any multiprefectural points
>
> You are correct in this assumption. I double checked it.
>
> > but it reminds me to ask you henry whether you are aware of any
> monumentation of the
> > multiprefectural points
> > for example
> > or of the lesser multipoints if indeed there are any
> > or of any particular enthusiasm for any of these points
> > or of any tries to visit & or to specially acknowledge them etc in
> any way
> >
>
> Since my connection to this hobby and concept is only tangential, I
> can't say how popular such concepts are here. A quick Google Japan
> search in Japanese for "prefectural boundaries" showed no sites for
> hobby groups. I got no hits for a search for tripoints. This is
> looking like a case of conspicuous absence since the Japanese are
> fairly hobby oriented.
>
> I did find one site whose owner has collected pictures of national
> highways at prefectural boundaries. I don't see any markers in
> them, just road signs.
>
> After a lot of effort, I finally found one tripoint marker:
>
> http://uenishi02.at.infoseek.co.jp/m200tokyo.html
ahh beauuuuty henry
& some of these rocks look most ancient indeed
even 8th century
could be the oldest set of tripoint rocks in the world waiting for us here
thank you very much indeed
& good going for this & for the entire report
as it feels like an accurate assessment of the state of the art there
which is after all looking not very different from most anywhere else
> Go to the very bottom pic. That is the tripoint marker at Tokyo,
> Saitama and Yamanashi located on Mt. Kumotori. This mountain is a
> fairly popular longer trek from Tokyo.
>
> The fact that I had this much trouble finding it on such a
> relatively prominent point may indicate that this hobby is very
> obscure in Japan. Btw, the above is a site of a "triangulation
> point" marker hobbyist.
>
> > i have noticed on my crude maps that the overwhelming majority of
> the prefectural
> > multipoints appear to be dry
> > as most of the boundaries that produce them seem to prefer
> watersheds to watercourses
> >
>
> Most Japanese prefectural boundaries are extremely old. The
> prefectures were created from the historical provinces as a result
> of the modernization after the Meiji Restoration of 1867. Many
> provinces were amalgamated and some boundaries were moved in the
> following 5 years or so but perhaps about half retained their old
> boundaries. The boundaries of provinces and their names date back
> to internal reforms of the 8th Century with a few exceptions.
>
> They do indeed seem to prefer watersheds. Perhaps this is because
> in a very mountainout country, mountains may seem to serve a
> more "natural" divides than rivers and there are more of them to use.
>
> > but this is all pure fantasy unencumbered by any actual knowledge
> of the reality there
> > unless you can offer some kind of a summary report that would
> begin to fill in our still
> > completely empty map & blank slate of bp japan
>
> As I said, I don't know the state of the hobby here. I am unlikely
> to venture out since I am not a BP hobbyist per se and many
> tripoints are rather remote.
>
> HH