Subject: AW: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Seborga's currency
Date: Feb 06, 2005 @ 09:56
Author: Wolfgang Schaub ("Wolfgang Schaub" <Wolfgang.Schaub@...>)
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Formally, you are right in a way, Len, as always. By the same token, the "universal" currency converter should then distinguish between a German and a French Euro, because they both have a different physiognomy.
 
And why don't they list then the old San Marino Lira like they do with the other "obsolete" European currencies? I have a San Marino Lira coin in my collection. And why not the Monaco Franc? I have a Monaco Franc coin in my collection.
 
Although this is increasingly off-topic: There was no Vatican Lira in terms of currency. There was a Vatican Lira only in terms of physiognomy. Or: Does anybody know of a Vatican Central Bank?
 
The story is different with the old Luxemburg and Belgian Francs: These were true currencies, just bound to each other. And probably this is also so with the Panama, Argentina and Ecuador currencies (but here I am not so sure).
 
Definitely there is no Seborga currency either, although there are coins for collectors that one can buy in any Seborga shop, like they are in San Marino, Monaco and the Vatican. The catholic church would be the least to omit a chance to make money out of nothing. The fact that mints may be operating in these countries does not mean anything. If I want, I also can produce my own coins at home.
 
And as far as the Euro goes, there is only one, managed by the European Central Bank in Frankfurt. That Euros have different reverse sides is only a political game and made for collectors. That member countries retain their respective National Banks is only for statistics and to manage the conversion of "obsolete" coins and paper bills found in jacket pockets when one pulls them out from a long-unopened wardrobe. As Germany is concerned one can swap Deutsche Marks against Euros for an indefinite period... 
 
Wolfgang
 
 
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: L. A. Nadybal [mailto:lnadybal@...]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 6. Februar 2005 05:44
An: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Seborga's currency


The Vatican had its own Lira - it issued its own coins (albeit some
produced by the Italian state mint).  With the Euro, the Vatican has,
from the European Central Bank, its own allocation from the universe
of Euros that can be issued by each monetary authority (as does San
Marino). 

Vatican Euros are not Italian Euros although they are worth exactly
the same, and each countries' Euros circulate in both neighboring
countries and are mutually accepted as legal tender. 

The Vatican situation wasn't much diferent in the Lira days than that
which exists in Panama.  As far as I know from my Canal Zone days,
Panama has the Balboa which is worth exactly the same as a US dollar,
but it has never issued Balboa banknotes, only Balboa coins.  For
banknotes, US dollar bills circulate.  Unlike Rome, however, Balboa
coins don't circulate in the US and are not legal tender here.

LN






  







--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Wolfgang Schaub"
<Wolfgang.Schaub@c...> wrote:
> There is other nonsense in the "Universal Currency Converter": They
speak of
> a Vatican Lira (obsolete). To my knowledge this was always the
Italian Lira,
> as it is, by the way, in Seborga: The Luigino is fiction, as far as it
> claims to be a currency; it is reality, as far as it is a souvenir
that you
> can buy in shops in Seborga at a rate dictated by Sua Altissima Serenita
> Prince Giorgio I. Still to-date, Prince Giorgio believes it makes
sense to
> set the "exchange rate" at 1 : 6 to the US Dollar. Tomorrow he may
choose to
> set a new rate "bound" to the Euro or the Swiss Franc. He will go on
doing
> his nonsense at the pleasure of Silvio Berlusconi, and make a lot of
money
> for Seborga, through the stupidity of (American) tourists. "Look, honey,
> it's so easy to change; they gonna give us 1 for 6 bucks".
>
> Wolfgang
>   -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
>   Von: Asher Samuels [mailto:asher972@y...]
>   Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Februar 2005 13:34
>   An: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>   Betreff: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Seborga's currency
>
>
>   It could be in there as a copyright trap.
>   --- Brendan Whyte <bwhyte@u...> wrote:
>
>   > If you go to the Universal Currency Converter
>   > http://www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml
>   > you will find Seborga's Luigino currency listed alongside all other
>   > national currencies...
>   > 1 SPL = 4.60780 EUR
>   > 1 EUR = 0.217023 SPL
>   >
>   > intriguing...
>   >
>   >
>   > Brendan
>
>
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