--- In
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Wolfgang Schaub"
<Wolfgang.Schaub@c...> wrote:
> Marcel and Lowell:
>
> Thank you for the "correct" translation. On the one side you are
absolutely
> right and what you say sounds perfectly reasonable, on the other I
have my
> doubts and wish to learn where the name really originates from - it
may have
> suffered a twist from an original "villa (libre de jurisdicción)"
to the
> modern "villalibre (de jurisdicción)". As a mountain climber I
never give up
ah yes wolfgang i am glad you have mentioned this again
as it reminds me to remind you not to give up either on my 2 as yet
unanswered mountain climbing queries for you at the bottom of
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/16005
for i really would like to know if you truly are the european
counterpart of jack parsell
in his capacity as our highpointing king of all the united states
without exception
& would also like to know if you know whether europe or anywhere else
for that matter has anything like the american highpointing society
to take note of such things
also a new question & a half if i dare
have you climbed any of the several tricountry point peaks yet
or reached any other tricountry points than youve previously reported
& as to whether a translation can actually be correct
without quotation marks
being an occasional translator myself
i would like to register a hearty appreciation of what i take to be
your suggestion here above
that translations can certainly be better or worse
& undoubtedly downright incorrect
but hardly just plain correct
for it just doesnt seem to ever work quite so simply as that
> and will explore directly at the source before we go on
speculating -
> especially because it would be marvellous to see my hypothesis
confirmed by
> a local historician.
>
> Thank you for sharing this little anecdote with me,
>
> Wolfgang
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Lowell G. McManus [mailto:mcmanus71496@m...]
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Dezember 2004 04:50
> An: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Villalibre sin Jurisdicción
>
>
> The proper translation of the Spanish is "Freetown of the
Jurisdiction,"
> not
> "Town Free of the Jurisdiction."
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "marcelmiquelcat" <marcelmiquel@c...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 5:04 PM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Villalibre sin Jurisdicción
>
>
>
>
>
> I suppose that "free" is about the town, not about the
jurisdiction.
> So, the correct translation would be "free town into the
> jurisdiction", and not "town free of the jurisdiction".
> I don't know what jurisdiction would be: it's possible that it
was a
> town free, as an enclave into a land summited to a feudal
> jurisdiction of a lord or a monastery.
>
> marcel
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Wolfgang Schaub"
> <Wolfgang.Schaub@c...> wrote:
> > First, muchas gracias. Yes, you are right: "de la", not "sin".
> Anyway, the
> > meaning is the same. And still there is no explanation for the
> name: ?Porque
> > no tiene jurisdicción? Dear Quadernet, I would be immensely
> grateful, if you
> > could find out for me, before I have to display my poor Spanish
to
> the mayor
> > of this little village.
> >
> > Wolfgang
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