Dear
Aletheiak,
as far
as Villalibre with or without jurisdiction goes, I have written a perfect
Spanish 3-sentence letter in the meantime to the Muy estimado senor Alcalde of
this little village, and I am looking forward to seeing what distils out of
that. Maybe he will pass this on to a local historician, and I will get floods
of Spanish text to read over Christmas....
As
your questions are concerned: No, I am not aware of a European society of
highpointers, but, if I ever manage to publish part of my stories - I have now
65 of 130 - I may go on creating one. It seems to me this sort of hobby attracts
Anglosaxons more than anyone else - this supported by my impressions that I
gather from London bookstores. I refer to Paul Theroux' travel stories, Nicholas
Crane's "Clear Waters Rising", and Raoul Schrott's "Tristan da Cunha", just to
give examples. Also, wide parts of Europe have not reached the level of
"decadence" yet that allows man to play with time - meaning most Europeans have
a job to go after that does not allow them to think in "higher" categories such
as collecting highpoints. Which also means I will not be successful in selling
any of my stuff.
Currently do not restrict myself to the 49 or so independent European
countries and their highpoints. I also include colonies, whenever thier
mountains are higher than those of the mainland. Furthermore I include all
autonomous regions and many of those that wish to become autonomous. And: All
en/exclaves, tex-free zones and other weird political entities - which blows up
the number of targets to 130 and makes it much more difficult to reach all
targets. It also keeps me busy for the "rest" time of my life. (To be honest, my
"rest" time started already when I was born in 1944.)
With
60 years of age I have to focus on those mountains that are technically
difficult or politically difficult to reach, before my "rest" time runs out.
This has meant climbing the highest Danish (colony) mountain in Greenland last
May, Monte Coglians of Friaul, the Wandfluhhorn of the Walser language "island"
of Bosco Gurin in the Swiss Ticino, and Pica d'Estats of Catalunya and Pena
Trevinca of Galicia last summer, among a couple of easier ones along the
way.
Next
year I plan to tackle Queen Mary's Peak on Tristan da Cunha (which to me is the
highest reachable British mountain - higher ones are on South Georgia and the
Antarctics), Newontoppen and Perriertoppen on Norway's Svalbard. 2006 I hope to
go for Beerenberg on the island of Jan Mayen and on some autonomous republic
mountains in the Caucasus, including Chechniya from south.
The
great mass of remaining targets are dispersed across East Europe, with the many
Russian autonomous republics - but these are "easy" ones technically. What makes
them difficult for me are the following obstacles: I have to learn Russian
first; I have to drive my own car in Russia; I have to identify the highpoints
with Russian Generalstab maps; I have to explain the locals that I am NOT a
spy.
And
one target also still lurks in the background: The highest of Makedonia and
Albania, which fortunately falls into one highpoint on their common border.
Although this may be easy technically, there are still mines in the field, and a
military escort has to be recruited to assist me surviving.
Which
reminds me of the fact that USA still has not banned the sales of landmines -
how long shall the schizophrenia go on that Americans risk their lives
helping to sweep the Balkans of landmines that other
Americans have exported before? If I go on thinking about this I
develop great sympathy for terror in all its forms...
Before
I lose myself in philosophy I better go on writing my chapter on Seborga with
its proud Monte Carparo.
Wolfgang
--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
"Wolfgang Schaub"
<Wolfgang.Schaub@c...> wrote:
> Marcel and
Lowell:
>
> Thank you for the "correct" translation. On the one
side you are
absolutely
> right and what you say sounds perfectly
reasonable, on the other I
have my
> doubts and wish to learn where
the name really originates from - it
may have
> suffered a twist
from an original "villa (libre de jurisdicción)"
to the
> modern
"villalibre (de jurisdicción)". As a mountain climber I
never give
up
ah yes wolfgang i am glad you have mentioned this again
as it
reminds me to remind you not to give up either on my 2 as yet
unanswered
mountain climbing queries for you at the bottom of
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/16005
for
i really would like to know if you truly are the european
counterpart of
jack parsell
in his capacity as our highpointing king of all the united
states
without exception
& would also like to know if you know
whether europe or anywhere else
for that matter has anything like the
american highpointing society
to take note of such things
also
a new question & a half if i dare
have you climbed any of the
several tricountry point peaks yet
or reached any other tricountry points
than youve previously reported
& as to whether a translation
can actually be correct
without quotation marks
being an occasional
translator myself
i would like to register a hearty appreciation of what i
take to be
your suggestion here above
that translations can certainly
be better or worse
& undoubtedly downright incorrect
but hardly just
plain correct
for it just doesnt seem to ever work quite so simply as
that
> and will explore directly at the source before we go on
speculating -
> especially because it would be marvellous to see my
hypothesis
confirmed by
> a local historician.
>
>
Thank you for sharing this little anecdote with me,
>
>
Wolfgang
> -----Ursprüngliche
Nachricht-----
> Von: Lowell G. McManus
[mailto:mcmanus71496@m...]
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Dezember
2004 04:50
> An:
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: [BoundaryPoint]
Re: Villalibre sin Jurisdicción
>
>
> The
proper translation of the Spanish is "Freetown of the
Jurisdiction,"
> not
> "Town Free of the
Jurisdiction."
>
> Lowell G.
McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
"marcelmiquelcat" <marcelmiquel@c...>
> To:
<BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday,
November 30, 2004 5:04 PM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re:
Villalibre sin Jurisdicción
>
>
>
>
>
> I suppose that "free" is about the town, not about the
jurisdiction.
> So, the correct translation would be
"free town into the
> jurisdiction", and not "town free of
the jurisdiction".
> I don't know what jurisdiction would
be: it's possible that it
was a
> town free, as an
enclave into a land summited to a feudal
> jurisdiction of a
lord or a monastery.
>
> marcel
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Wolfgang
Schaub"
> <Wolfgang.Schaub@c...>
wrote:
> > First, muchas gracias. Yes, you are right: "de
la", not "sin".
> Anyway, the
> >
meaning is the same. And still there is no explanation for
the
> name: ?Porque
> > no tiene
jurisdicción? Dear Quadernet, I would be immensely
>
grateful, if you
> > could find out for me, before I have
to display my poor Spanish
to
> the
mayor
> > of this little village.
>
>
> > Wolfgang
>
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