Subject: Re: My two cents on AMAZ enclaves<br/>
Date: Sep 22, 2004 @ 22:49<br/>
Author: aletheiak (&quot;aletheiak&quot; &lt;aletheiak@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-678557559">yikes<br/>
is our mind still clouded again<br/>
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tomorrow we thought we will already take care of that yesterday<br/>
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now mike thinks this must be me & i think it must be arif<br/>
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btw mike that armenian site is indeed lame today<br/>
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so please try it again tomorrow<br/>
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it was fine yesterday<br/>
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but anyway<br/>
it is just a government map showing armenia in 2 clumps<br/>
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the basic metrople plus nagorno karabakh<br/>
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with no other claves indicated<br/>
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more below lowell<br/>
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--- In <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com">BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com</a>, &quot;Lowell G. McManus&quot; <br/>
&lt;mcmanus71496@m...&gt; wrote:<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; Arif wrote:<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; &gt; American and Western European maps<br/>
&gt; &gt; have clouded Mike and almost everybody else&#39;s mind on<br/>
&gt; &gt; the subject that what maps draw are imaginary lines<br/>
&gt; &gt; and not statements of facts.  These lines can be<br/>
&gt; &gt; imagined by different countries according to their own<br/>
&gt; &gt; thought.  I have seen enclaves appear and disappear<br/>
&gt; &gt; from Bangladeshi maps two or three times knowing full<br/>
&gt; &gt; well that they did exist.  Just because it didn&#39;t show<br/>
&gt; &gt; up on a map does not mean it didn&#39;t exist.  I wouldn&#39;t<br/>
&gt; &gt; be surprised if such uncertain boundary mapping was<br/>
&gt; &gt; the norm instead of the exception outside the Western<br/>
&gt; &gt; countries.<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; All to often, maps are nothing more than propaganda. <br/>
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 </span></blockquote>a euripidean chorus couldnt have said it better<br/>
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but is it only the frequency you bewail<br/>
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well then how often would be not all too often<br/>
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& how often would be not too often at all<br/>
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for if only we knew<br/>
we will be able to take care of that also long before yesterday<br/>
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One must consider the<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; source.<br/>
&gt; I remember entering the Peruvian pavilion at the 1984 New <br/>
 </span></blockquote>Orleans world&#39;s fair<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; to be greeted by a wall-sized map depicting the Peruvian <br/>
 </span></blockquote>version of the<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; Ecuador-Peru boundary. <br/>
<br/>
 </span></blockquote>why did you ever think to do that <br/>
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& did it really greet you like that<br/>
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hola chico<br/>
bienvenido to peruse our pavilion <br/>
but hay que consider ze source<br/>
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<blockquote><span title="qreply"> &gt; Lowell G. McManus<br/>
&gt; Leesville, Louisiana, USA </span></blockquote></div>