Subject: Re: My two cents on AMAZ enclaves<br/>
Date: Sep 23, 2004 @ 00:03<br/>
Author: aletheiak (&quot;aletheiak&quot; &lt;aletheiak@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-1865054623">mike<br/>
the armenian government map of armenia is working again for <br/>
me now<br/>
<br/>
good luck<br/>
<br/>
--- In <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com">BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com</a>, &quot;aletheiak&quot; <br/>
&lt;aletheiak@y...&gt; wrote:<br/>
<blockquote><span title="qreply"> &gt; yikes<br/>
&gt; is our mind still clouded again<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; tomorrow we thought we will already take care of that yesterday<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; now mike thinks this must be me & i think it must be arif<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; btw mike that armenian site is indeed lame today<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; so please try it again tomorrow<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; it was fine yesterday<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; but anyway<br/>
&gt; it is just a government map showing armenia in 2 clumps<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; the basic metrople plus nagorno karabakh<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; with no other claves indicated<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; more below lowell<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; --- In <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com">BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com</a>, &quot;Lowell G. McManus&quot; <br/>
&gt; &lt;mcmanus71496@m...&gt; wrote:<br/>
&gt; &gt; Arif wrote:<br/>
&gt; &gt; <br/>
&gt; &gt; &gt; American and Western European maps<br/>
&gt; &gt; &gt; have clouded Mike and almost everybody else&#39;s mind on<br/>
&gt; &gt; &gt; the subject that what maps draw are imaginary lines<br/>
&gt; &gt; &gt; and not statements of facts.  These lines can be<br/>
&gt; &gt; &gt; imagined by different countries according to their own<br/>
&gt; &gt; &gt; thought.  I have seen enclaves appear and disappear<br/>
&gt; &gt; &gt; from Bangladeshi maps two or three times knowing full<br/>
&gt; &gt; &gt; well that they did exist.  Just because it didn&#39;t show<br/>
&gt; &gt; &gt; up on a map does not mean it didn&#39;t exist.  I wouldn&#39;t<br/>
&gt; &gt; &gt; be surprised if such uncertain boundary mapping was<br/>
&gt; &gt; &gt; the norm instead of the exception outside the Western<br/>
&gt; &gt; &gt; countries.<br/>
&gt; &gt; <br/>
&gt; &gt; All to often, maps are nothing more than propaganda. <br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; a euripidean chorus couldnt have said it better<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; but is it only the frequency you bewail<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; well then how often would be not all too often<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; & how often would be not too often at all<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; for if only we knew<br/>
&gt; we will be able to take care of that also long before yesterday<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; One must consider the<br/>
&gt; &gt; source.<br/>
&gt; &gt; I remember entering the Peruvian pavilion at the 1984 New <br/>
&gt; Orleans world&#39;s fair<br/>
&gt; &gt; to be greeted by a wall-sized map depicting the Peruvian <br/>
&gt; version of the<br/>
&gt; &gt; Ecuador-Peru boundary. <br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; why did you ever think to do that <br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; & did it really greet you like that<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; hola chico<br/>
&gt; bienvenido to peruse our pavilion <br/>
&gt; but hay que consider ze source<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; &gt; Lowell G. McManus<br/>
&gt; &gt; Leesville, Louisiana, USA </span></blockquote></div>