It's not a fantasy, it's common sense. The maps and
borders were thoroughly done over in 1978. The claves
were left as they were. You can't just assume
something goes away because you yourself want it to go
away. What real evidence do you have saying they no
longer exist?
By your reasoning, anyone could say that the other 4
exclaves no longer exist either because they haven't
been "heard from" since the date of the last map
showing them. If that is 2002 (hypothetically), does
that mean we should question whether they've existed
for the last 2 years? (No.)
--- aletheiak <
aletheiak@...> wrote:
> exactly
> you have finally hit it in your afterword here
> maestro
>
> & the tripoints sometimes do indeed move about etc
> so we only know for sure what was supposedly true at
> the time
> they were last visited &or reported etc
> so i absolutely agree with you about the tripoints &
> claves equally
>
> & thats one reason for & benefit of reporting on
> them repeatedly
>
> & you have proved these particular crumbs existed
> circa 1976 &
> possibly as recently as 1978
> tho i believe your logic is still questionable there
> in msg 15345
> hahaha
> however unworth questioning just to reduce by 2 the
> 28 years
> during which i still do believe they havent been
> heard from
>
> & in the meantime whole governments & nation states
> have
> come & gone ferociously several times all thru there
> which do in fact now recognize & mention all the
> well known
> classmates of these maybeclaves but have apparently
> never
> mentioned these crumbs during at least 26 of these
> 28 years
>
> so i am content to believe them real as of 1976 or
> maybe 1978
> & looking forward to more & fresher data
> via whatever aspiring clavoscopist provides it
>
> & i have just been responding to your claim in
> message 15272
> of what you think we have
> by telling you i know we once had them but i
> seriously question if
> we still have them
>
> i am not stuck in your fantasy tho
>
> & anyway time will tell
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Michael
> Kaufman
> <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > By the same token, the tripoint could have
> > moved...maybe the cartogrophers just didn't know
> about
> > it. The AMAZGE tripoint could have moved (or even
> > ceased to exist!) - it's just that it wasn't shown
> or
> > said, "if something isnt shown or said it only
> means
> > it wasnt shown or said not that it was or wasnt a
> > fact."
> >
> > --- aletheiak <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
> >
> > > thanx
> > > good idea specifically
> > > & good for the aspiring clavoscopist to be so
> > > diligent in any case
> > >
> > > but one cant presume the cartographers knew
> anything
> > > other
> > > than what they actually drew or wrote
> > >
> > > if something isnt shown or said
> > > it only means it wasnt shown or said
> > > not that it was or wasnt a fact
> > > & not that anyone had any specific inkling about
> it
> > > or even any
> > > general awareness of it
> > >
> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G.
> > > McManus"
> > > <mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> > > > Mike D. asked:
> > > >
> > > > > if the claves were discontinued
> > > > > their borders couldnt & wouldnt have been
> > > redrawn but only
> > > > > eliminated or forgotten
> > > > >
> > > > > would the mapmakers have just scrawled a big
> > > purple cross
> > > > > over each clave to let us know in that case
> > > > >
> > > > > or exactly how would they redraw something
> that
> > > had
> > > completely
> > > > > vanished
> > > > > short of erasing it
> > > > > which they couldnt do
> > > >
> > > > I the addition of a purple overprint was the
> only
> > > means of
> > > revision available,
> > > > the cartographers would likely have added a
> text
> > > notation in
> > > purple that
> > > > such-and-such claves no longer existed. I
> suggest
> > > that you go
> > > back and check
> > > > the margins and legend of the map for such
> purple
> > > text.
> > > >
> > > > Lowell G. McManus
> > > > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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