ah but now you appear to be deliberately misunderstanding as
well as deliberately misrepresenting what i actually said & did
my questioning what you believe & claim exists
& even my wondering out loud if anyone has seen any evidence
of it at any time in the past quarter of a century for starters
is not the same as assuming it no longer exists
nor the same as saying it doesnt exist
let alone as wanting it not to exist
you are not even close on any of the above
for this is not me mike
nor my reasoning
but only your specific self delusions about me & it
& such is the grandeur of your delusions that you are even
reckoning them common sense now
but i just dont share any of this sense with you in common
indeed my vote is of no consensus & no confidence in any of
what you are now saying about me
or about anything here below
& you only grow more delirious as you go
a map
& the representations on it
like all other data
are never thorough
but are always selective & necessarily partial
as well as dated
& often just plain wrong besides
& thinking they necessarily arent could be the mother of all
delusion
as of all your specific delusions here
--- In
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Michael Kaufman
<mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> It's not a fantasy, it's common sense. The maps and
> borders were thoroughly done over in 1978. The claves
> were left as they were. You can't just assume
> something goes away because you yourself want it to go
> away. What real evidence do you have saying they no
> longer exist?
> By your reasoning, anyone could say that the other 4
> exclaves no longer exist either because they haven't
> been "heard from" since the date of the last map
> showing them. If that is 2002 (hypothetically), does
> that mean we should question whether they've existed
> for the last 2 years? (No.)
>
> --- aletheiak <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
>
> > exactly
> > you have finally hit it in your afterword here
> > maestro
> >
> > & the tripoints sometimes do indeed move about etc
> > so we only know for sure what was supposedly true at
> > the time
> > they were last visited &or reported etc
> > so i absolutely agree with you about the tripoints &
> > claves equally
> >
> > & thats one reason for & benefit of reporting on
> > them repeatedly
> >
> > & you have proved these particular crumbs existed
> > circa 1976 &
> > possibly as recently as 1978
> > tho i believe your logic is still questionable there
> > in msg 15345
> > hahaha
> > however unworth questioning just to reduce by 2 the
> > 28 years
> > during which i still do believe they havent been
> > heard from
> >
> > & in the meantime whole governments & nation states
> > have
> > come & gone ferociously several times all thru there
> > which do in fact now recognize & mention all the
> > well known
> > classmates of these maybeclaves but have apparently
> > never
> > mentioned these crumbs during at least 26 of these
> > 28 years
> >
> > so i am content to believe them real as of 1976 or
> > maybe 1978
> > & looking forward to more & fresher data
> > via whatever aspiring clavoscopist provides it
> >
> > & i have just been responding to your claim in
> > message 15272
> > of what you think we have
> > by telling you i know we once had them but i
> > seriously question if
> > we still have them
> >
> > i am not stuck in your fantasy tho
> >
> > & anyway time will tell
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Michael
> > Kaufman
> > <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > > By the same token, the tripoint could have
> > > moved...maybe the cartogrophers just didn't know
> > about
> > > it. The AMAZGE tripoint could have moved (or even
> > > ceased to exist!) - it's just that it wasn't shown
> > or
> > > said, "if something isnt shown or said it only
> > means
> > > it wasnt shown or said not that it was or wasnt a
> > > fact."
> > >
> > > --- aletheiak <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > thanx
> > > > good idea specifically
> > > > & good for the aspiring clavoscopist to be so
> > > > diligent in any case
> > > >
> > > > but one cant presume the cartographers knew
> > anything
> > > > other
> > > > than what they actually drew or wrote
> > > >
> > > > if something isnt shown or said
> > > > it only means it wasnt shown or said
> > > > not that it was or wasnt a fact
> > > > & not that anyone had any specific inkling about
> > it
> > > > or even any
> > > > general awareness of it
> > > >
> > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G.
> > > > McManus"
> > > > <mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> > > > > Mike D. asked:
> > > > >
> > > > > > if the claves were discontinued
> > > > > > their borders couldnt & wouldnt have been
> > > > redrawn but only
> > > > > > eliminated or forgotten
> > > > > >
> > > > > > would the mapmakers have just scrawled a big
> > > > purple cross
> > > > > > over each clave to let us know in that case
> > > > > >
> > > > > > or exactly how would they redraw something
> > that
> > > > had
> > > > completely
> > > > > > vanished
> > > > > > short of erasing it
> > > > > > which they couldnt do
> > > > >
> > > > > I the addition of a purple overprint was the
> > only
> > > > means of
> > > > revision available,
> > > > > the cartographers would likely have added a
> > text
> > > > notation in
> > > > purple that
> > > > > such-and-such claves no longer existed. I
> > suggest
> > > > that you go
> > > > back and check
> > > > > the margins and legend of the map for such
> > purple
> > > > text.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lowell G. McManus
> > > > > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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