Subject: RE: [BoundaryPoint] Ireland-NI border pics
Date: Sep 13, 2004 @ 00:30
Author: Dallen Timothy (Dallen Timothy <dtimothy@...>)
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Jesper,

There aren’t any of these kinds of signs left.

DJT

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jesper Nielsen [mailto:jesniel@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 7:30 AM
To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Ireland-NI border pics

 

Here are  examples:

http://facweb.furman.edu/~dstanford/fte2/ire0.jpg

http://www.frankkl.de/Trips/Ireland/Ireland_3_3/Welcome_to_ireland.jpg

 

 

Jesper

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 4:12 PM

Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Ireland-NI border pics

 

So there were no blue EU signs at the borders.

 

Also no ordinary, non-EU signs announcing the countries?

 

Jesper

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 7:35 PM

Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Ireland-NI border pics

 

Hi Folks,

I’ve been hibernating for several months finishing up a couple of new books, but I’ve been reading the goings-on of BoundaryPoint. I was on business in Ireland last month, and of course I took the opportunity to do several border stops on the NI-Ireland border. Things have changed a lot on this border since the early 1990s. In fact at all eight places we crossed (on land and on river) there is no sign whatsoever that an international boundary is being crossed. Unlike other EU borders, there are no blue signs announcing which country one is entering, and there certainly are no border stations left (unlike between Finland and Sweden). After talking a lot with academics, politicians, and local people along the border I’ve realized that there is a lot of cooperation now going on between the north and south, and in fact the whole island is being promoted in tourism terms as a single destination. All of the South’s brochures and Websites include the North and vice versa, and geographical lexicon the only divisions are now by county, not by country.

 

Now for the attached photos:

 

1)       Picture 009 is of the border just southwest of Londonderry. The 1:60,000 topographic map shows this as a dry border, but in fact it’s a small stream under this old bridge. You can see the pavement change in the middle of the bridge and the new speed limit is in km, not miles. The speed signs are the only indication you are entering the Republic.

2)       Up the road about 300-400 meters you find this sign, welcoming you to County Donegal. All the major crossings are marked with welcome to County X signs, but no indication of Ireland or Northern Ireland.

 

I’ll send more today and over the intervening days. Doug is helping me reduce their size—thanks Doug. Hopefully they won’t plug up anyone’s system.

Cheers,
Dallen