The fact that they were left alone and no purple
annotations were made to them should tell you they
continued unchanged. Just like everything else with
no purple annotations continued unchanged. Note that
most of the length of all the borders on the map was
UNchanged. If there were a change to the claves in
1978, it would have been noted in purple on the map.
So the lack of any changes should tell you they have
indeed been heard from as of 1978, and not just 1976.

And you have to assume the status quo unless you have
something to counter it. Right up until today. Do
you have any proof these claves no longer exist?

--- aletheiak <aletheiak@...> wrote:

> because it indicates that the depiction of the clave
> borders in
> black on this map dates from the first printing in
> 1976
> & that for whatever reason these claves & their
> borders were
> ignored when all the other borders were revised &
> overprinted in
> purple in 1978
>
> but i think the purple probably indicates actual
> border revisions
> rather than corrections of mistakes
>
> presumably these authoritative maps were correct
> when the
> borders were first drawn in black
> & were correct again when they were revised in
> purple
>
> & the fact that the borders of these claves were not
> purpled over
> could mean that they continued unchanged in 1978
> & possibly even right up to the present
>
> or it could mean that they ceased to exist by then
> or later
>
> & we dont know which it does mean
>
> but without any subsequent trace or mention of them
> anywhere
> else that we do know of
> i think it is fair to say they have not been heard
> from in 28 years
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Michael
> Kaufman
> <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > Why would 14183 suggest that?
> >
> > --- aletheiak <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
> >
> > > thanx chris
> > >
> > > it is unclear if any of these people are
> > > credentialed in clavoscopy
> > >
> > > but
> > >
> > > regarding the 2 extra quasiclaves or maybeclaves
> > > that i just
> > > questioned
> > > not here below but in the separate message 15273
> > >
> > > a careful reading of the text in your first link
> > > here below
> > > especially
> > > ob sie je eine reale rolle gespielt haben ist
> > > unbekannt
> > > which in normal barbarian means
> > > whether they ever actually performed as claves
> is
> > > unknown
> > >
> > > plus
> > >
> > > a careful reading of the info in message 14183
> > >
> > > together
> > > suggest that these supposed claves or clavicules
>
> > > if indeed they ever really existed at all
> > > may actually not have been heard from in at
> least 28
> > > years
> > >
> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "chris
> schulz"
> > >
> > > <23568@g...> wrote:
> > > >
> http://home.pages.at/maxifant/Frames/armenien.htm
> > > >
> http://home.pages.at/maxifant/Frames/karabakh.htm
> > > >
> > > > here you may find additional maps.
> > > >
> > > > regards, chris
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Michael Kaufman
> > > > To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 7:49 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: enclaves on
> > > stamps
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ok cool. But we have 6 total exclaves, not
> 4.
> > > > So it must be the 4 others which are
> > > non-Nakhichevan
> > > > instead of 2.
> > > >
> > >
> http://www.vasa.abo.fi/users/rpalmber/enclaves.htm
> > > > http://home.no.net/enklaver/azerbaijan.htm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- aletheiak <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > politically kyarki is part of the
> nakhichevan
> > > > > autonomous republic
> > > > >
> > > > > but of course topologically both kyarki &
> the
> > > > > greater chunk of
> > > > > nakhichevan are exclaves of the azerbaijan
> > > republic
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > & the 2 other azerbaijan exclaves are not
> part
> > > of
> > > > > nakhichevan
> > > > > autonomous republic but of the azerbaijan
> > > republic
> > > > > proper
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> Michael
> > > > > Kaufman
> > > > > <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > Is Kyarki part of Nakhichevan or is it a
> > > separate
> > > > > > Azerbaijani exclave? I'm guessing yes
> due
> > > to the
> > > > > > close proximity, but would like to know
> for
> > > sure.
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- Brendan Whyte <bwhyte@u...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Another Nakhichevan issue on ebay,
> showing
> > > > > Kiarky.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > AND the seller is in Lithuania!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brendan
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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