OK.

We will solve this dispute in a few weeks.

Anyway, looked at the video I took at ATCHLIN during GCEBE, and there were a bm# 134. I also shoot several alignments - I wish I could share with you.

I could't see any markers on the CH bank.

Jesper

----- Original Message -----

From: aletheiak

To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 12:12 AM

Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Re; Map sites (ATCHFLN)

what evidence do you mean i have already answered this with chapter & verse in messages 14729 & 12459 it is marker number 2 there why not read that text but anyway the point is the same in every case at the ends of all 3 of these condos the terminal monument is also a sighting monument for the border convergent from the opposing bank as far as the thalweg or midway tripoint where the triline begins or ends they serve for the entire triline & for both tripoints on its ends bede marker 1 for example is on the german bank & indicates exactly where belu converges on the opposite bank the pair of belu markers on the banks of the ribbach tributary alone there dont indicate this exactly without using bede marker 1 you wouldnt know exactly where the condo ends & the normal river boundary resumes &or vice versa so think of it as a tributary centerline sighting line a little strange but thats what it is too at cnkpru & defrlu this is clearer & more explicit because no tributary is involved in those cases but rather only a dry convergent but as i say the device is fairly common whether it comes with a tripoint or a triline or not we have just seen it again at buesingen & again at the upper atli rhein turnpoint or are you not seeing that this is all the same practice just slightly more complicated for condo triline tripoints --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@i...> wrote: > BEDELU: > On BE bank: indirect BEDE marker 1 > On DE bank: indirect BEDE marker 1 > On LU bank: indirect DELU marker 52 > > DEFRLU: > Two markers, One marking DEFR, just marked NI (we discussed it earlier), another marker on LU bank (as far as I remember no visable markings) > > CNKPRU: > Anybody remember the situation? > > Jesper > ----- Original Message ----- > From: aletheiak > To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 1:28 AM > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Re; Map sites (ATCHFLN) > > > bedelu > defrlu > cnkpru > possibly other postsoviets > etc > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Jesper Nielsen" > <jesniel@i...> wrote: > > I have never seen any boundary marker on third part land. > > > > Examples? > > > > Jesper > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: aletheiak > > To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 5:11 PM > > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Re; Map sites (ATCHFLN) > > > > > > yes yes yes > > it is common practice to mark river tripoints this way > > > > & the geocoordinate data brought by peter vouch that > precisely > > this is the case here > > or at least was once the case here > > > > if you see marker 136 then that is all you will need to align > with > > the already found 135 > > > > alternatively if you find 134 that would be practically enough > too > > as there is only the slightest difference in alignment among > the 3 > > > > if you find neither of these > > then the top line on 135 alone would still be substantially > correct > > tho not as good > > > > & last & least > > the data dont support 133 except as a very general check > > > > however > > whether mats is right or not > > all the indications are that you were substantially on line the > first > > time > > > > what we are doing now is just for corrobation & fine tuning > > > > & only if you are wanting to improve the existing class d visit to > a > > class b > > would any of these considerations become very interesting > > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Jesper Nielsen" > > <jesniel@i...> wrote: > > > Would they place a ATFL marker in CH? > > > > > > Doubt it. > > > > > > But we can check. > > > > > > Jesper > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Ernst Stavro Blofeld > > > To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 9:28 PM > > > Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Re; Map sites (ATCHFLN) > > > > > > > > > --- Jesper Nielsen <jesniel@i...> wrote: > > > > What happened to 136? > > > > > > > > > > I think I can see it. > > > > > > See red circle on attached picture from Peter. > > > > > > M > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! 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