Subject: Re: vatican tidbit<br/>
Date: Apr 16, 2004 @ 18:51<br/>
Author: acroorca2002 (&quot;acroorca2002&quot; &lt;orc@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-1948489851">please look for insertions<br/>
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--- In <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com">BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com</a>, Ernst Stavro Blofeld <br/>
&lt;blofeld_es@y...&gt; wrote:<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; &gt; this<br/>
&gt; &gt; delicious mess <br/>
&gt; &gt; was the result of subsequent construction<br/>
&gt; &gt; athwart the border<br/>
&gt; &gt; & remained divided only until the border could be<br/>
&gt; &gt; changed & the <br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; I believe that the border hasn&#39;t changed (much) since<br/>
&gt; the construction of this building. <br/>
<br/>
 </span></blockquote>right <br/>
& i believe it depends on what you mean by much<br/>
<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; Instead, I believe<br/>
&gt; that one part of the building, about a fourth, is<br/>
&gt; within va, and the rest is within an area that enjoys<br/>
&gt; extraterritorial status, and as such belongs to the<br/>
&gt; va.<br/>
&gt; Whether these two entities are the same or not could<br/>
&gt; probably be a subject for considerable debate here at<br/>
&gt; bp.<br/>
<br/>
 </span></blockquote>well considerable misunderstanding anyway<br/>
as we do so confuse apples & oranges whenever possible<br/>
hahahaha<br/>
<br/>
in this case i was believing that the official vatican map <br/>
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://tinyurl.com/3gjob">http://tinyurl.com/3gjob</a><br/>
depicts the borders of the actual territory of the vatican city state <br/>
as twice modified subsequent to 1929 <br/>
& does not endeavor to show any presently extraterrestrial areas<br/>
<br/>
but i just noticed that the official vatican list of extraterritorials at<br/>
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://tinyurl.com/23v58">http://tinyurl.com/23v58</a><br/>
includes as item 7<br/>
a certain palace of sant offizio etc<br/>
yet the above map shows the vatican almost entirely enclosing<br/>
a certain sant uffizio square<br/>
hmm<br/>
so there is some reason to suspend my belief in the vatican <br/>
map <br/>
& at least entertain the possibilities that the confusion of apples <br/>
& origins could be coming from the vatican &or me<br/>
 <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; If there has been a change in the treaty that fully<br/>
&gt; includes this formerlly extraterritorial area into the<br/>
&gt; Vatican City State (as it is not uncommonly shown on<br/>
&gt; maps), I would like to be advised.<br/>
<br/>
 </span></blockquote>well thats what i believed the 2 nuovi confini chapters were about<br/>
hahahaha<br/>
so now i dont know what to believe<br/>
hahaha<br/>
& would like to be just as advised as you<br/>
hahaha<br/>
<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; &gt; that dividing the buildings is contrary to the very<br/>
&gt; &gt; spirit of itva<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; Yes, I believe this is a fair assumption.<br/>
&gt;  <br/>
&gt; &gt; & shows no clearly divided building anywhere on the<br/>
&gt; &gt; border<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; Ah, but there is actually another. It is well visible<br/>
&gt; on some maps. Would you like to know straight away, or<br/>
&gt; would you prefer to do some research of your own?<br/>
<br/>
 </span></blockquote>well i assume you are not talking about either of the 2 back door <br/>
propylaea in the outside corners where the elliptical colonnade <br/>
arms join the straight colonnades<br/>
for which i have already mentioned accepting the vaticans map<br/>
<br/>
& i am a little intrigued about a crazy looking peneclave feature <br/>
called the passetto<br/>
so i will guess wildly & for no other reason<br/>
is that the feature you too are thinking of<br/>
<br/>
or what is that funny thing anyway<br/>
<br/>
but in view of your playful invite <br/>
i confess i can barely wait for your offered info</div>