Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: New Subject - Gwadur
Date: Mar 29, 2004 @ 16:12
Author: Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
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What I posted came from http://www.dawn.com/2001/01/22/ebr5.htm , a feature on
Gwadur in DAWN, the leading English-language newspaper in Pakistan. Different
interest groups probably have different views or spins on the events of 1958.
Still, the place came to be Pakistani after a sale by the Sultan of Muscat in
that year.

Lowell G. McManus
Leesville, Louisiana, USA


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joachim Duester" <jduester@...>
To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 8:35 AM
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: New Subject - Gwadur


> Well, we are talking here about
> http://www.home.pages.at/maxifant/Frames/gwadar.htm
> - Gwadar, Gwadur, Guadar - it's all the same actually in different
> tranliteration.
>
> To claim that Sultan Said "offered" it "for sale" is ludicrous, as
> well as the claim that there were offers from the UK, Iran and the
> USSR. The story of Gwadar is well covered in some recently published
> sources, though little is found about it in the Internet. Muscat
> reliquished sovereignty over Gwadar in 1958, after many years of
> Pakistani efforts to obtain that piece of territory. Sultan Said
> always refused to negotiate directly with Pakistan, and authority was
> not handed over to Pakistan, but under an arrangement made with the
> BRITISH (not Pakistani) government, he withdrew his administrators
> from Gwadar in September 1958 and Pakistani officials arrived hours
> later to take over. The refusal to negotiate with Pakistan and the
> absence of a formal handover to Pakistan seem to indicate that he did
> not accept the loss of Gwadar, and that he wanted to show that he only
> yielded to British pressure. On the other hand, he was very precise as
> to the amounts of money to be paid to him through the British
> government and how and where they were to be deposited. If I remember
> correctly, it was the equivalent of 3 million pound sterling, paretly
> to be paid in US dollars. Also in 1958, Sultan Said insisted that the
> agreement of 1891 entered into by his grandfather Sultan Faisal with
> Britain "never to cede, sell or mortgage" any part of his territory to
> a foreign power should be abolished (and it was abolished by an
> agreement in the form of an exchange of letters). He probably argued
> that he was now asked to cede Muscat territory - i.e. Gwadar - to a
> foreign nation, exactly what the British had requested Muscat NOT to
> do in 1891 ...
>
> Joachim Duester
>
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
> <mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> > Gwadur is a port in southwestern Pakistan. It was a coastal enclave
> belonging
> > to the Sultan of Muscat between 1797 and 1958, when it was offered
> for sale.
> > The Sultan chose to sell it to Pakistan, despite better offers from
> the UK,
> > Iran, and even the USSR!
> >
> > Lowell G. McManus
> > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "L. A. Nadybal" <lnadybal@c...>
> > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 5:54 PM
> > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] New Subject - Gwadur
> >
> >
> > > I found a recent philatelic reference to Gwadur - and it's having been
> > > purchased by Pakistan in 1958. THe reason it is of interest, is that
> > > it was one of three locations where India ran post offices in other
> > > countries - Dubai, Muskat and Gwadur. When Pakistan separated from
> > > India on 15 August 1947, it took over the three post offices. A few
> > > months later, on April 15, 1948, the office in Muskat and Dubai were
> > > taken over by the British; Gwadur's post office remained Pakistani.
> > > Ten years later, in 1958, Pakistan bought Gwadur. End of story.
> > >
> > > Question. Where is it, from whom was it purchased, and is it now an
> > > exclave of Pakistan?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Len Nadybal
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