Subject: Re: ozark county govt just yells up from the next holler
Date: Aug 26, 2003 @ 00:58
Author: acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
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ahh right you are of course
for this to have been at all remarkable the government had to yell
up from the next holler over
& not from the same holler at all
& i am very glad & grateful someone is even paying attention too
but despite having my lines crossed or especially because of it
i am all the more titillated to think of this handshake line as oral
de jure

it would be nice to know exactly how long it has been this way

--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
<mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> Mike,
>
> If I understand you correctly, I think that you have the lines
reversed. The
> stepped boundary is the oral de facto line, while the de jure
line wanders
> through the mountains to the northwest. As the newspaper
article puts it: "The
> mountain ridges that form the legal boundary are just
northwest of the accepted
> Yell-Logan county line that appears on current state maps as a
jagged series of
> steps." The stepped boundary shown on the topo maps is the
accepted de facto
> boundary.
>
> I have an atlas called THE ROADS OF ARKANSAS from
Shearer Publishing. It
> depicts the entire state at a scale of one-half inch to the mile. It
shows both
> boundaries. The wandering boundary to the northwest is
unlabeled, but the
> stepped one to the southeast has notes in three paces that
say "County line as
> agreed upon for tax collection purposes." I have been through
the area on
> Arkansas 309, and the highway county-line signs are on the
stepped agreed-upon
> boundary.
>
> I'll try to scan and post part of the map, if I can make the file
small enough
> and still retain legibility.
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "m donner" <maxivan82@h...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 11:58 AM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] ozark county govt just yells up from
the next holler
>
>
> > talk about no government
> > in the news today
> >
http://www.nwanews.com/adg/story_National.php?storyid=3988
4
> >
> >
>
http://topozone.com/map.asp?z=15&n=3896587&e=454697&s=
1000&layer=DRG250&size=l&u=0
> > shows the general location of the mentioned de jure logan
yell county line
> > between its tripoints with pope & scott counties at upper right
& lower left
> > respectively
> > see i showed & even mentioned them
> > but the specific location of all the fun is at center including the
place
> > named crossroads
> > where the letter f in ozark national forest is just west of the
written de
> > jure boundary between logan & yell counties as depicted
> > but east of the orally agreed & long established de facto
boundary along the
> > ridge line mentioned in the article
> >
> > the area of overlapping or nongovernment can be seen up
close here
> > between the huckleberry mountain watershed divide running
from lower left to
> > upper right
> > & the county line as depicted at some remove from it at lower
right
> >
>
http://topozone.com/map.asp?z=15&n=3896587&e=454697&s=
100&layer=DRG25&size=l&u=0
> >
> >
> > but here is a question
> >
> > since an oral agreement is just as real & binding as a written
one
> > then isnt this supposedly de facto line really just as de jure
as the
> > written one
> >
> > & being more recent than the written one yet still in long use
> > doesnt the oral line actually trump & supplant the written one
in this
> > unusual case
> >
> > & of course now that this so called anomaly has come to
light
> > they will probably amend the state constitution & the county
charters
> > posthaste
> > to properly reflect reality
> > but in the meantime arent we really looking here at a
preciously rare if not
> > unique case of an oral de jure boundary
> >
> >
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