Attached is a scan of the area in question from THE ROADS OF ARKANSAS atlas.
I have added two yellow arrows (at lower left and upper right) to indicate the
points where the wandering de jure boundary and the stepped de facto boundary
diverge at each end. Note the three instances of red text that identify the
stepped boundary as "County line as agreed upon for tax collection purposes."
The grid is composed of section lines, one mile apart.
Lowell G. McManus
Leesville, Louisiana, USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "acroorca2002" <orc@orcoast.com>
To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 7:58 PM
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: ozark county govt just yells up from the next
holler
> ahh right you are of course
> for this to have been at all remarkable the government had to yell
> up from the next holler over
> & not from the same holler at all
> & i am very glad & grateful someone is even paying attention too
> but despite having my lines crossed or especially because of it
> i am all the more titillated to think of this handshake line as oral
> de jure
>
> it would be nice to know exactly how long it has been this way
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
> <mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> > Mike,
> >
> > If I understand you correctly, I think that you have the lines
> reversed. The
> > stepped boundary is the oral de facto line, while the de jure
> line wanders
> > through the mountains to the northwest. As the newspaper
> article puts it: "The
> > mountain ridges that form the legal boundary are just
> northwest of the accepted
> > Yell-Logan county line that appears on current state maps as a
> jagged series of
> > steps." The stepped boundary shown on the topo maps is the
> accepted de facto
> > boundary.
> >
> > I have an atlas called THE ROADS OF ARKANSAS from
> Shearer Publishing. It
> > depicts the entire state at a scale of one-half inch to the mile. It
> shows both
> > boundaries. The wandering boundary to the northwest is
> unlabeled, but the
> > stepped one to the southeast has notes in three paces that
> say "County line as
> > agreed upon for tax collection purposes." I have been through
> the area on
> > Arkansas 309, and the highway county-line signs are on the
> stepped agreed-upon
> > boundary.
> >
> > I'll try to scan and post part of the map, if I can make the file
> small enough
> > and still retain legibility.
> >
> > Lowell G. McManus
> > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "m donner" <maxivan82@h...>
> > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 11:58 AM
> > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] ozark county govt just yells up from
> the next holler
> >
> >
> > > talk about no government
> > > in the news today
> > >
> http://www.nwanews.com/adg/story_National.php?storyid=3988
> 4
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://topozone.com/map.asp?z=15&n=3896587&e=454697&s=
> 1000&layer=DRG250&size=l&u=0
> > > shows the general location of the mentioned de jure logan
> yell county line
> > > between its tripoints with pope & scott counties at upper right
> & lower left
> > > respectively
> > > see i showed & even mentioned them
> > > but the specific location of all the fun is at center including the
> place
> > > named crossroads
> > > where the letter f in ozark national forest is just west of the
> written de
> > > jure boundary between logan & yell counties as depicted
> > > but east of the orally agreed & long established de facto
> boundary along the
> > > ridge line mentioned in the article
> > >
> > > the area of overlapping or nongovernment can be seen up
> close here
> > > between the huckleberry mountain watershed divide running
> from lower left to
> > > upper right
> > > & the county line as depicted at some remove from it at lower
> right
> > >
> >
> http://topozone.com/map.asp?z=15&n=3896587&e=454697&s=
> 100&layer=DRG25&size=l&u=0
> > >
> > >
> > > but here is a question
> > >
> > > since an oral agreement is just as real & binding as a written
> one
> > > then isnt this supposedly de facto line really just as de jure
> as the
> > > written one
> > >
> > > & being more recent than the written one yet still in long use
> > > doesnt the oral line actually trump & supplant the written one
> in this
> > > unusual case
> > >
> > > & of course now that this so called anomaly has come to
> light
> > > they will probably amend the state constitution & the county
> charters
> > > posthaste
> > > to properly reflect reality
> > > but in the meantime arent we really looking here at a
> preciously rare if not
> > > unique case of an oral de jure boundary
> > >
> > >
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