well there evidently was a definite tripoint of the soviet republics
which may or may not be correctly indicated on your soviet map
but if this tripoint can be known or inferred by any means
& until & unless there is a ratification of it or of a new one
then it remains the actual & truest available tripoint today
the problem is we just dont have any confidence of where it lies
owing mainly to its collision here with that weird cartographic
convention
& the question remains
whether the monuments are near or not so near the tripoint
why is the right bank involved or even mentioned at all
& not once but in 2 different sources
when it seems from all other indications that it is the wrong bank
--- In
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Jesper Nielsen"
<jesniel@i...> wrote:
> Since Russia had not yet rattified the border, the tripoint is not
yet defined and so they can only start restoring the EELV border
NEAR the tripoint.
>
> And since they can only put a marker on land, the physial
restoration of the border can only happen NEAR the tripoint.
>
> Makes sence?
>
> Jesper
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: acroorca2002
> To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 6:02 PM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Topomap: EELVRU
>
>
> yes it does seem likely that the kudedi or kudepi is the same
as
> the laykchne
>
> in which case monument 1 stands between & just above its
> confluence with the pedetsi or pededze
>
> however
> the tripoint position itself
> both the actual one if any & the prospective one if any different
> doesnt appear to be directly addressed in this message at all
> & evidently remains either unknown or a closely held secret
>
> & i would have been content to just continue to assume that it
> falls & will continue to fall at the thalweg junction
> as some believe the map really indicates anyway
> according to an arcane cartographical convention
> despite the position of the vee point actually shown on the
west
> or right bank of the pededze
>
> but
> your informant does definitely indicate
> that the 1990s border restoration began near the tripoint
> as he says
> on the right coast
> of the pededze
>
> now if the tripoint isnt really on the right coast aka west bank
> then why bother restoring the border on the west bank
>
> so i think this express detail
> in conjunction with the fact that the vee point is actually shown
by
> the map on the west bank
> cartographic convention notwithstanding
> may well be most telling of its true location
> actual as well as prospective
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Jesper Nielsen"
> <jesniel@i...> wrote:
> > Here is what I have received from EE authorities regarding
> EELV(RU):
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Thank you for your interest in Estonian international
borders.
> Initial
> > position of Estonian-Latvian border was defined by a
protocol
> issued by
> > border arbiter British Colonel Tallents in 1920. The
borderline
> was further
> > refined by conventions, agreements and protocols signed
> between Estonia and
> > Latvia in 1920, 1923 and 1927 as well as by resolutions
> agreed by
> > Estonian-Latvian Joint Border Commission. The border
built in
> 1922-1927 was
> > restored in 1992-1999. Adjustments in the actual borderline
> caused by
> > changes during the 70-year period were introduced by
> EstonianLatvian Joint
> > Border Commission in coordination with local
municipalities
> from both sides.
> > Rumours that the border splits buildings in the Valga/Valka
> border town are
> > a misconception.
> >
> > The Estonian-Latvian borderline build in 1922-1927 started
> from the border
> > mark no. 1 at the Russian-Estonian-Latvian borders'
junction
> point
> > (tripoint) situated at the west bank of the Kudepi River and
> ended at the
> > mark no. 442 at the coast of Livonian Bay.
> > Estonia restored the border from the mark no. 46+1379
near
> the tripoint and
> > situating on the right coast of the Pedetsi River, to the mark
no.
> 219 near
> > the Valga river. From the mark no. 219 to no. 442
> (Ainazi/Heinaste) the
> > border was restored by Latvia.
> >
> > Position of the tripoint depends also from Russian
Federation.
> There exist a
> > preliminary agreement about the triple point, but we cannot
> publish the maps
> > about the tripoint as well as border lines around that before
> this agreement
> > is accepted by the governments of Estonia and Russia.
> >
> > -----------
> >
> > But where is Kudedi river?
> > On the attached map the EELV border river is called
something
> else
> > (Laykchne?)
> >
> > If the border was marked in the 20'es. Can these markers
still
> be found. Or
> > did the Soviets really remove them?
> >
> > Jesper
>
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