Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Topomap: EELVRU
Date: Jun 08, 2003 @ 16:19
Author: Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
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Since Russia had not yet rattified the border, the tripoint is not yet defined and so they can only start restoring the EELV border NEAR the tripoint.
 
And since they can only put a marker on land, the physial restoration of the border can only happen NEAR the tripoint.
 
Makes sence?
 
Jesper
----- Original Message -----
From: acroorca2002
To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 6:02 PM
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Topomap: EELVRU

yes it does seem likely that the kudedi or kudepi is the same as
the laykchne

in which case monument 1 stands between & just above its
confluence with the pedetsi or pededze

however
the tripoint position itself
both the actual one if any & the prospective one if any different
doesnt appear to be directly addressed in this message at all
& evidently remains either unknown or a closely held secret

& i would have been content to just continue to assume that it
falls & will continue to fall at the thalweg junction
as some believe the map really indicates anyway
according to an arcane cartographical convention
despite the position of the vee point actually shown on the west
or right bank of the pededze

but
your informant does definitely indicate
that the 1990s border restoration began near the tripoint
as he says
on the right coast
of the pededze

now if the tripoint isnt really on the right coast aka west bank
then why bother restoring the border on the west bank

so i think this express detail
in conjunction with the fact that the vee point is actually shown by
the map on the west bank
cartographic convention notwithstanding
may well be most telling of its true location
actual as well as prospective

--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Jesper Nielsen"
<jesniel@i...> wrote:
> Here is what I have received from EE authorities regarding
EELV(RU):
>
> ---
>
> Thank you for your interest in Estonian international borders.
Initial
> position of Estonian-Latvian border was defined by a protocol
issued by
> border arbiter British Colonel Tallents in 1920. The borderline
was further
> refined by conventions, agreements and protocols signed
between Estonia and
> Latvia in 1920, 1923 and 1927 as well as by resolutions
agreed by
> Estonian-Latvian Joint Border Commission. The border built in
1922-1927 was
> restored in 1992-1999. Adjustments in the actual borderline
caused by
> changes during the 70-year period were introduced by
EstonianLatvian Joint
> Border Commission in coordination with local municipalities
from both sides.
> Rumours that the border splits buildings in the Valga/Valka
border town are
> a misconception.
>
> The Estonian-Latvian borderline build in 1922-1927 started
from the border
> mark no. 1 at the Russian-Estonian-Latvian borders' junction
point
> (tripoint) situated at the west bank of the Kudepi River and
ended at the
> mark no. 442 at the coast of Livonian Bay.
> Estonia restored the border from the mark no. 46+1379 near
the tripoint and
> situating on the right coast of the Pedetsi River, to the mark no.
219 near
> the Valga river. From the mark no. 219 to no. 442
(Ainazi/Heinaste) the
> border was restored by Latvia.
>
> Position of the tripoint depends also from Russian Federation.
There exist a
> preliminary agreement about the triple point, but we cannot
publish the maps
> about the tripoint as well as border lines around that before
this agreement
> is accepted by the governments of Estonia and Russia.
>
> -----------
>
> But where is Kudedi river?
> On the attached map the EELV border river is called something
else
> (Laykchne?)
>
> If the border was marked in the 20'es. Can these markers still
be found. Or
> did the Soviets really remove them?
>
> Jesper



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