another correction
effectively reversing the previous correction
& everything else previously guessed as well
for as i just realized
the pededze flows not north but south from eelvru
hahahahaha
therefore
right bank was truly wrong
& west was right in the first place
& most importantly
there is no longer any good reason to suppose the tripoint lies
east of the pededze
assuming the map depiction has been correctly explained away
which i am now again willing to assume
& luckily
2 wrongs
if perfectly wrong
meaning 180 degrees wrong
do make a right
--- In
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "acroorca2002"
<orc@o...> wrote:
> yikes
> got my brain crossed
> i meant east
> east is right bank
> east east east east
> anyway you know what i mean
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "acroorca2002"
> <orc@o...> wrote:
> > yes it does seem likely that the kudedi or kudepi is the same
> as
> > the laykchne
> >
> > in which case monument 1 stands between & just above its
> > confluence with the pedetsi or pededze
> >
> > however
> > the tripoint position itself
> > both the actual one if any & the prospective one if any
different
> > doesnt appear to be directly addressed in this message at
all
> > & evidently remains either unknown or a closely held secret
> >
> > & i would have been content to just continue to assume that it
> > falls & will continue to fall at the thalweg junction
> > as some believe the map really indicates anyway
> > according to an arcane cartographical convention
> > despite the position of the vee point actually shown on the
west
> > or right bank of the pededze
> >
> > but
> > your informant does definitely indicate
> > that the 1990s border restoration began near the tripoint
> > as he says
> > on the right coast
> > of the pededze
> >
> > now if the tripoint isnt really on the right coast aka west bank
> > then why bother restoring the border on the west bank
>
> east east east
>
> >
> > so i think this express detail
> > in conjunction with the fact that the vee point is actually
shown
> by
> > the map on the west bank
>
> east east east yikes
> excuse me
>
> > cartographic convention notwithstanding
> > may well be most telling of its true location
> > actual as well as prospective
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Jesper Nielsen"
> > <jesniel@i...> wrote:
> > > Here is what I have received from EE authorities regarding
> > EELV(RU):
> > >
> > > ---
> > >
> > > Thank you for your interest in Estonian international
borders.
> > Initial
> > > position of Estonian-Latvian border was defined by a
protocol
> > issued by
> > > border arbiter British Colonel Tallents in 1920. The
> borderline
> > was further
> > > refined by conventions, agreements and protocols signed
> > between Estonia and
> > > Latvia in 1920, 1923 and 1927 as well as by resolutions
> > agreed by
> > > Estonian-Latvian Joint Border Commission. The border
built
> in
> > 1922-1927 was
> > > restored in 1992-1999. Adjustments in the actual
borderline
> > caused by
> > > changes during the 70-year period were introduced by
> > EstonianLatvian Joint
> > > Border Commission in coordination with local
municipalities
> > from both sides.
> > > Rumours that the border splits buildings in the Valga/Valka
> > border town are
> > > a misconception.
> > >
> > > The Estonian-Latvian borderline build in 1922-1927 started
> > from the border
> > > mark no. 1 at the Russian-Estonian-Latvian borders'
junction
> > point
> > > (tripoint) situated at the west bank of the Kudepi River and
> > ended at the
> > > mark no. 442 at the coast of Livonian Bay.
> > > Estonia restored the border from the mark no. 46+1379
near
> > the tripoint and
> > > situating on the right coast of the Pedetsi River, to the mark
> no.
> > 219 near
> > > the Valga river. From the mark no. 219 to no. 442
> > (Ainazi/Heinaste) the
> > > border was restored by Latvia.
> > >
> > > Position of the tripoint depends also from Russian
> Federation.
> > There exist a
> > > preliminary agreement about the triple point, but we cannot
> > publish the maps
> > > about the tripoint as well as border lines around that before
> > this agreement
> > > is accepted by the governments of Estonia and Russia.
> > >
> > > -----------
> > >
> > > But where is Kudedi river?
> > > On the attached map the EELV border river is called
> something
> > else
> > > (Laykchne?)
> > >
> > > If the border was marked in the 20'es. Can these markers
> still
> > be found. Or
> > > did the Soviets really remove them?
> > >
> > > Jesper