Subject: Re: St Maarten
Date: Jun 05, 2003 @ 19:56
Author: acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
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couldnt follow you as usual len
but i agree with your conclusion
as this was all dead in the water before it began
& we have long since observed the futility & confusion inherent in
trying to make sense out of all or any of these ill conceived &
excessively pampered peneclave terms

but more to the point
all such quasi pene semi demi hemi clave words & ideas
even at their best
i mean even when they all do get intelligibly sorted out
if ever
still have nothing to do with multipointing

so i figure
even sight unseen as it were
you are absolutely right at least twice over

--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "L. A. Nadybal"
<lnadybal@c...> wrote:
> Re: your text below. In the case of this peninsula, it isn't
> connected to the motherland (at least not by dry land border).
> Without that, does it qualify as "pene..."? I equate it to the
> situation with the US state of Michigan - the "upper part" is an
> peninsular appendage of Minnesota that can't be reached from
the
> eastern section of Michigan except over water. Like St. Martin's
> western peninsula, Michigan isn't detached territorially, and I
ask
> you if you would classify Upper Michigan as a pene-exclave of
the
> boddy of land. The only difference I see between the two is the
> relative sizes of the detached parts to the main parts - Michigan
is a
> 40-60 kind deal and the little western thumb of St. Martin,
vis-a-vis
> the big part must be more like a 5-95 relationship.
>
> Pene- was defined for me by Brendan as an exclave connected
at one
> point to the motherland, and we don't have that here. If you
classify
> or define pene-enclave as one being a detached and not
accessible
> except through a third country, that would apply to any exclave,
too
> and not to this piece. This tongue of land can be accessed
overland
> from France only via the Netherlands (so far so good for
exclave
> status) but (not so good for maintaining exclave status) it can
also
> be reached by boat, AND without even leaving France.
>
> With that, it seems to me, enclave status, both pene- and pure,
just
> "died in the water", so to speak).
>
> LN
>
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> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Dallen Timothy
<dtimothy@a...>
> wrote:
> > Right, no pure enclaves, but if the tip of the small peninsula
is only
> > connected to the 'motherland' then it forms a pene-enclave.