Subject: RE: [BoundaryPoint] Re: St Maarten
Date: Jun 05, 2003 @ 21:13
Author: Dallen Timothy (Dallen Timothy <dtimothy@...>)
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RE: [BoundaryPoint] Re: St Maarten

This may be the semantic case, but the traditional geopolitical use of pene-exclave has always included those that are connected to the motherland by water as well--Point Roberts, NW Angle, etc.

Dallen


-----Original Message-----
From: L. A. Nadybal [mailto:lnadybal@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 11:52 AM
To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: St Maarten

Re: your text below.  In the case of this peninsula, it isn't
connected to the motherland (at least not by dry land border).
Without that, does it qualify as "pene..."?  I equate it to the
situation with the US state of Michigan - the "upper part" is an
peninsular appendage of Minnesota that can't be reached from the
eastern section of Michigan except over water.  Like St. Martin's
western peninsula, Michigan isn't detached territorially, and I ask
you if you would classify Upper Michigan as a pene-exclave of the
boddy of land.  The only difference I see between the two is the
relative sizes of the detached parts to the main parts - Michigan is a
40-60 kind deal and the little western thumb of St. Martin, vis-a-vis
the big part must be more like a 5-95 relationship. 

Pene- was defined for me by Brendan as an exclave connected at one
point to the motherland, and we don't have that here.  If you classify
or define pene-enclave as one being a detached and not accessible
except through a third country, that would apply to any exclave, too
and not to this piece.  This tongue of land can be accessed overland
from France only via the Netherlands (so far so good for exclave
status) but (not so good for maintaining exclave status) it can also
be reached by boat, AND without even leaving France. 

With that, it seems to me, enclave status, both pene- and pure, just
"died in the water", so to speak). 

LN

 



 
--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Dallen Timothy <dtimothy@a...>
wrote:
> Right, no pure enclaves, but if the tip of the small peninsula is only
> connected to the 'motherland' then it forms a pene-enclave.


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