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From: "acroorca2002" <orc@orcoast.com>

To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 4:33 PM

Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: particular mexican spots

> john

> welcome back & well

done

>
> > > even just an ordinary domestic state line

marker

> > > anywhere within that country
> > > would be

totally novel

> > >
> > > if you travel by car between

monterrey & saltillo

> > > at about the halfway point you will

have a crack at mx2conu

> > > the coahuila & nuevo leon state

line

> > > where there might conceivably be a road stone waiting for
> you
> > > but we simply have no clue yet as to what to

expect there

> > > or on any state line within mexico
> >
> > Would you believe a white sign with black letters that

says:

> >
> > "Termina Taumulipas Principia Nuevo

Leon"

>
> ahh yes i would
> but between monterrey &

laredo rather than saltillo

> which i gather must be what you

meant

Yeah. You said "any state line". I was too busy within Mty to venture out to Saltillo, though I considered it.

> & it jogs deja vus of others

i may have seen elsewhere long ago

> without realizing their significance

at the time

>
> but even so
> & even if its no nonsense

simplicity wasnt already convincing

> i think the apparent absence of a

road stone or any other obvious

> marker there in such a critical

location probably means this sign

> itself is the interstate boundary

demarcation

> & possibly the closest thing there is to a real state

line marker

> anywhere in mexico
> since its placement & style

do make it seem federal or mutual

> particularly in relation to the

partisan nuevo leon welcome sign

>
> so this does indeed appear to

be the first sighting of its kind ever

> reported here
> which

alone is a most exciting event

> even without the promised pic
>

> > Then a green sign that says "Bienvenidos a Nuevo

Leon"?

> >
> > I didn't have my camera ready the first time,

so I had to stop on

> the way
> > back and take the other pic

first, then cross the median take

> the one going other way , run way

down, to take the "Bienvenidos

> a Nuevo Leon" one.
> >
> > I didn't see a road stone.
> >
> > >
> > > if you get the chance to reconnoiter a little farther afield tho
> > > about 100km south of saltillo there may be a truly great prize
> > > the probably difficult to impossible mx2conusaza
> > > or

the legendary mexican 4corners point

> > > where the states of san

luis potosi & zacatecas are believed

> to
> > > meet the

above pair

> > the Museo de Metropolitiano Monterrey, next to the HoJo

had a

> map showing these four states. An old map, there are not

show

> as touching. I think NL was cut off from SLP, but I might be
> misremembering.
>
> or it could just be typically

fuzzy mexican mapping

I think the map in question was of aproximately the same period as the DoI of Mexico, so perhaps the state lines have changed.

> pending any harder evidence

tho

> i am still inclined to trust arifs call
> that this hoped for

conusaza quadripoint is very probably all there

>
> but the

question is

> will it be marked

That is a good question which I hadn't thought of. Might get to the right spot and not even know it.

> > I have not yet

developed the photos from the NL-TM border or

> the ones I took on the

International Bridge Walkway in Laredo. I

> was told I could not

take pictures in the US direction, but I had

> taken a few three days

earlier from the CIETV where you get

> permits in Mexico.
>
> aha interesting
> clearly you could take them
> & all

the green across the middle of the pic must be the rio valley

>
> > I will send in a day or two.
>
> great
>

thanx

I will send one more of the US-Mexico border photos and will try to finish up the roll that has the TANL photos on.

International Bridge I, walkway and road, seen west of CIETV

I will also try to get these scanned on something without a watermark.