hahahaha
first you amaze & delight us by saying you know of only one case
keeping us up half the night marvelling at your precious rarity
then you amaze & delight us again by rattling off 7 more cases
keeping us up half the morning marvelling at your prodigious abundance
& proving that at boundarypoint at least
you c a n eat your cake & have it too
m
>
>In my US atlas (some promotional one, issued by an insurance company,
>but the small print say it is Rand McNally, 1997), I have found these
>cases where a time zone boundary cuts through a county:
>
>Alaska:
>I'm not sure about the division of Alaska (is it into counties?), but
>part of the Aleutian islands is in the Hawaii-Aleutian TZ. The rest
>is in the Alaska TZ.
>
>Florida:
>Gulf county (Central & Eastern)
>
>Idaho:
>Idaho county (Mountain & Pacific). It looks like the boundary is the
>Salmon river here.
>On my map, a small north-western part of Lemhi county is also in the
>Pacific TZ, but this could be either a bit of inaccuracy on the part
>of Rand McNally, or there is simply no one living in that part. Or
>both.
>
>Nebraska:
>Cherry county (Mountain & Central)
>
>North Dakota:
>McKenzie, Dunn, Morton, Sioux counties (Mountain & Central)
>For part of the boundary through McKenzie and Dunn counties, the
>Little Missouri river is used. Morton county is split to keep Mandan
>on the same time as Bismarck, or so it seems. In Sioux, it is the
>town of Fort Yates that somehow wanted to have the same time as the
>folks on the other side of the Missouri.
>
>Oregon:
>The only county not entirely in the Pacific TZ is Malheur county
>(Mountain TZ). But the southernmost part of it _is_ in the Pacific
>TZ! It is the part in which my atlas places the town of McDermitt (on
>the California border).
>
>South Dakota:
>Stanley and Jones counties (Mountain & Central)
>
>Texas:
>the only parts of Texas not in Central but Mountain TZ are El Paso
>and Hudspeth counties entirely, and the part of Culberson county Pine
>Springs is in. So this last county is split, time-wise.
>
>How are these time zone boundaries signposted in the US? "You are now
>entering the Eastern Time Zone"? Not unlike Berlin... ;-)
>
>Peter S.
>
>--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., michael donner <m@d...> wrote:
>> nice hole in reality peter
>> which i chanced to visit recently
>> while en route from alflga to shore dinner in apalachicola
>> but unwittingly since i am normally oblivious of time
>>
>> several different versions of truth are alleged
>>
>> besides brendans mcnallys
>> <http://www.fla-usa.com/counties/Gulf_county.html>
>>http://www.fla-usa.com/counties/Gulf_county.html dated 1999
>> shows the time boundary leaving within central zone most of the
>community
>> of overstreet as well as the unlabelled area to its east possibly
>named
>> dalkeith
>> but leaving white city & beacon hill entirely within eastern time
>>
>> & my 1996 aaa road atlas also leaves white city & beacon hill
>entirely eastern
>> & dalkeith mostly eastern but differently so & overstreet entirely
>central
>>
>> & my 1980 gousha road atlas shows beacon hill & white city mostly
>in central
>> & overstreet & dalkeith entirely in central
>>
>>
>> so until we find some official definition of the boundary
>> which actually doesnt seem very intent on cleaving to highways 386
>or 71
>> & which doesnt seem to have any incorporated towns here to hug
>either
>> it is looking like pure guesswork & happenchance
>>
>> but to try to answer your most interesting & middle question anyway
>> none of these places has more than 1 zip code assigned to it
>> & in fact they may all share post offices with single numbers
>> since several come up empty
>> so i think zippable time zoning probably isnt ready for this area
>yet
>> but fantastic idea anyway
>>
>> maybe oz is ready for zip primed time tho
>>
>> m
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >according to my recent )undated) rand mcnally atlas, the time zone
>boundary
>> >follows Apalachicola R from Lake seminole to the head of an inlet
>N of Bay
>> >city. The Franklin scounty line detours to the west of this a
>little south
>> >of sumatra. As the county is mainly swamp as shown in the atlas, i
>guess the
>> >line was drawn way before White City and the 71 were formed? The
>zone line
>> >goes through White City it seems to me.
>> >
>> >In Australia, Broken hill is on SA time, not NSW time.
>> >Tweed Heads, the southern end of the gold coast is in NSW which
>has summer
>> >time while none of Qld does, so in summer, this creates some
>hiccoughs for
>> >getting kids to school, going to work etc.
>> >Apart from Broken Hill, the zones follow state lines.
>> >BW
>> >
>> >
>> >>From: "Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@y...>
>> >>Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@y...
>> >>To: BoundaryPoint@y...
>> >>Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Time zone boundaries
>> >>Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 20:15:09 -0000
>> >>
>> >>In my old job, I was once asked if it is possible in the United
>> >>States to say in which time zone an address is located from the
>state
>> >>or county it is in. Normally, this is possible, since time zone
>> >>boundaries normally coincide with state boundaries, and when not,
>> >>then with county boundaries. I know of one case, however, where
>the
>> >>time zone boundary runs straight through a county: Gulf county in
>> >>Florida (and we all know Florida is in two time zones since the
>> >>presidential elections, don't we). My question is: how is this
>> >>boundary defined? Is there some quarternary (sub-county) boundary
>> >>that is used as time zone boundary here? Can you tell, for
>example,
>> >>the time zone from the ZIP code of an address?
>> >>
>> >>I read somewhere that for election purposes only, as the opening
>and
>> >>closing time of the ballot boxes has to be the same throughout a
>> >>county (at least in Florida, that is), Gulf county uses the same
>time
>> >>throughout the county. So in one part the voting starts at 6 a.m.,
>> >>and in the other part at 7 a.m.
>> >>
>> >>The splitting up, time-wise, of Gulf co., has to do with the
>railway
>> >>that runs through it (if I recall correctly). After all, the whole
>> >>implementation of the time zone system was really initiated by the
>> >>railways in the 19th century.
>> >>
>> >>Are there any other cases like this in the US? Or in other
>countries?
>> >>There must be.
>> >>
>> >>Peter S.
>
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