I did know of one case, but then I thought of checking it in an atlas
as well...
It is not the first time here at BoundaryPoint that I ask something,
and then find the answer myself afterwards after all.
Still, nice to know it makes some of you smile. I just hope you don't
lose any sleep over it.
Peter S.
--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., michael donner <m@d...> wrote:
> hahahaha
> first you amaze & delight us by saying you know of only one case
> keeping us up half the night marvelling at your precious rarity
>
> then you amaze & delight us again by rattling off 7 more cases
> keeping us up half the morning marvelling at your prodigious
abundance
> & proving that at boundarypoint at least
> you c a n eat your cake & have it too
>
> m
>
> >
> >In my US atlas (some promotional one, issued by an insurance
company,
> >but the small print say it is Rand McNally, 1997), I have found
these
> >cases where a time zone boundary cuts through a county:
> >
> >Alaska:
> >I'm not sure about the division of Alaska (is it into counties?),
but
> >part of the Aleutian islands is in the Hawaii-Aleutian TZ. The rest
> >is in the Alaska TZ.
> >
> >Florida:
> >Gulf county (Central & Eastern)
> >
> >Idaho:
> >Idaho county (Mountain & Pacific). It looks like the boundary is
the
> >Salmon river here.
> >On my map, a small north-western part of Lemhi county is also in
the
> >Pacific TZ, but this could be either a bit of inaccuracy on the
part
> >of Rand McNally, or there is simply no one living in that part. Or
> >both.
> >
> >Nebraska:
> >Cherry county (Mountain & Central)
> >
> >North Dakota:
> >McKenzie, Dunn, Morton, Sioux counties (Mountain & Central)
> >For part of the boundary through McKenzie and Dunn counties, the
> >Little Missouri river is used. Morton county is split to keep
Mandan
> >on the same time as Bismarck, or so it seems. In Sioux, it is the
> >town of Fort Yates that somehow wanted to have the same time as the
> >folks on the other side of the Missouri.
> >
> >Oregon:
> >The only county not entirely in the Pacific TZ is Malheur county
> >(Mountain TZ). But the southernmost part of it _is_ in the Pacific
> >TZ! It is the part in which my atlas places the town of McDermitt
(on
> >the California border).
> >
> >South Dakota:
> >Stanley and Jones counties (Mountain & Central)
> >
> >Texas:
> >the only parts of Texas not in Central but Mountain TZ are El Paso
> >and Hudspeth counties entirely, and the part of Culberson county
Pine
> >Springs is in. So this last county is split, time-wise.
> >
> >How are these time zone boundaries signposted in the US? "You are
now
> >entering the Eastern Time Zone"? Not unlike Berlin... ;-)
> >
> >Peter S.
> >
> >--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., michael donner <m@d...> wrote:
> >> nice hole in reality peter
> >> which i chanced to visit recently
> >> while en route from alflga to shore dinner in apalachicola
> >> but unwittingly since i am normally oblivious of time
> >>
> >> several different versions of truth are alleged
> >>
> >> besides brendans mcnallys
> >> <http://www.fla-usa.com/counties/Gulf_county.html>
> >>http://www.fla-usa.com/counties/Gulf_county.html dated 1999
> >> shows the time boundary leaving within central zone most of the
> >community
> >> of overstreet as well as the unlabelled area to its east possibly
> >named
> >> dalkeith
> >> but leaving white city & beacon hill entirely within eastern time
> >>
> >> & my 1996 aaa road atlas also leaves white city & beacon hill
> >entirely eastern
> >> & dalkeith mostly eastern but differently so & overstreet
entirely
> >central
> >>
> >> & my 1980 gousha road atlas shows beacon hill & white city mostly
> >in central
> >> & overstreet & dalkeith entirely in central
> >>
> >>
> >> so until we find some official definition of the boundary
> >> which actually doesnt seem very intent on cleaving to highways
386
> >or 71
> >> & which doesnt seem to have any incorporated towns here to hug
> >either
> >> it is looking like pure guesswork & happenchance
> >>
> >> but to try to answer your most interesting & middle question
anyway
> >> none of these places has more than 1 zip code assigned to it
> >> & in fact they may all share post offices with single numbers
> >> since several come up empty
> >> so i think zippable time zoning probably isnt ready for this area
> >yet
> >> but fantastic idea anyway
> >>
> >> maybe oz is ready for zip primed time tho
> >>
> >> m
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >according to my recent )undated) rand mcnally atlas, the time
zone
> >boundary
> >> >follows Apalachicola R from Lake seminole to the head of an
inlet
> >N of Bay
> >> >city. The Franklin scounty line detours to the west of this a
> >little south
> >> >of sumatra. As the county is mainly swamp as shown in the
atlas, i
> >guess the
> >> >line was drawn way before White City and the 71 were formed? The
> >zone line
> >> >goes through White City it seems to me.
> >> >
> >> >In Australia, Broken hill is on SA time, not NSW time.
> >> >Tweed Heads, the southern end of the gold coast is in NSW which
> >has summer
> >> >time while none of Qld does, so in summer, this creates some
> >hiccoughs for
> >> >getting kids to school, going to work etc.
> >> >Apart from Broken Hill, the zones follow state lines.
> >> >BW
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>From: "Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@y...>
> >> >>Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@y...
> >> >>To: BoundaryPoint@y...
> >> >>Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Time zone boundaries
> >> >>Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 20:15:09 -0000
> >> >>
> >> >>In my old job, I was once asked if it is possible in the United
> >> >>States to say in which time zone an address is located from the
> >state
> >> >>or county it is in. Normally, this is possible, since time zone
> >> >>boundaries normally coincide with state boundaries, and when
not,
> >> >>then with county boundaries. I know of one case, however, where
> >the
> >> >>time zone boundary runs straight through a county: Gulf county
in
> >> >>Florida (and we all know Florida is in two time zones since the
> >> >>presidential elections, don't we). My question is: how is this
> >> >>boundary defined? Is there some quarternary (sub-county)
boundary
> >> >>that is used as time zone boundary here? Can you tell, for
> >example,
> >> >>the time zone from the ZIP code of an address?
> >> >>
> >> >>I read somewhere that for election purposes only, as the
opening
> >and
> >> >>closing time of the ballot boxes has to be the same throughout
a
> >> >>county (at least in Florida, that is), Gulf county uses the
same
> >time
> >> >>throughout the county. So in one part the voting starts at 6
a.m.,
> >> >>and in the other part at 7 a.m.
> >> >>
> >> >>The splitting up, time-wise, of Gulf co., has to do with the
> >railway
> >> >>that runs through it (if I recall correctly). After all, the
whole
> >> >>implementation of the time zone system was really initiated by
the
> >> >>railways in the 19th century.
> >> >>
> >> >>Are there any other cases like this in the US? Or in other
> >countries?
> >> >>There must be.
> >> >>
> >> >>Peter S.
> >
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