Subject: Re: Time zone boundaries
Date: May 11, 2001 @ 10:50
Author: Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
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--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., michael donner <m@d...> wrote:
> nice hole in reality peter
> which i chanced to visit recently
> while en route from alflga to shore dinner in apalachicola
> but unwittingly since i am normally oblivious of time
>
> several different versions of truth are alleged
>
> besides brendans mcnallys
> http://www.fla-usa.com/counties/Gulf_county.html dated 1999
> shows the time boundary leaving within central zone most of the
community
> of overstreet as well as the unlabelled area to its east possibly
named
> dalkeith
> but leaving white city & beacon hill entirely within eastern time
>
> & my 1996 aaa road atlas also leaves white city & beacon hill
entirely eastern
> & dalkeith mostly eastern but differently so & overstreet entirely
central
>
> & my 1980 gousha road atlas shows beacon hill & white city mostly
in central
> & overstreet & dalkeith entirely in central
>
>
> so until we find some official definition of the boundary
> which actually doesnt seem very intent on cleaving to highways 386
or 71
> & which doesnt seem to have any incorporated towns here to hug
either
> it is looking like pure guesswork & happenchance
>
> but to try to answer your most interesting & middle question anyway
> none of these places has more than 1 zip code assigned to it
> & in fact they may all share post offices with single numbers
> since several come up empty
> so i think zippable time zoning probably isnt ready for this area
yet
> but fantastic idea anyway
>
> maybe oz is ready for zip primed time tho
>
> m
>
>
>
>
> >
> >according to my recent )undated) rand mcnally atlas, the time zone
boundary
> >follows Apalachicola R from Lake seminole to the head of an inlet
N of Bay
> >city. The Franklin scounty line detours to the west of this a
little south
> >of sumatra. As the county is mainly swamp as shown in the atlas, i
guess the
> >line was drawn way before White City and the 71 were formed? The
zone line
> >goes through White City it seems to me.
> >
> >In Australia, Broken hill is on SA time, not NSW time.
> >Tweed Heads, the southern end of the gold coast is in NSW which
has summer
> >time while none of Qld does, so in summer, this creates some
hiccoughs for
> >getting kids to school, going to work etc.
> >Apart from Broken Hill, the zones follow state lines.
> >BW
> >
> >
> >>From: "Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@y...>
> >>Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@y...
> >>To: BoundaryPoint@y...
> >>Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Time zone boundaries
> >>Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 20:15:09 -0000
> >>
> >>In my old job, I was once asked if it is possible in the United
> >>States to say in which time zone an address is located from the
state
> >>or county it is in. Normally, this is possible, since time zone
> >>boundaries normally coincide with state boundaries, and when not,
> >>then with county boundaries. I know of one case, however, where
the
> >>time zone boundary runs straight through a county: Gulf county in
> >>Florida (and we all know Florida is in two time zones since the
> >>presidential elections, don't we). My question is: how is this
> >>boundary defined? Is there some quarternary (sub-county) boundary
> >>that is used as time zone boundary here? Can you tell, for
example,
> >>the time zone from the ZIP code of an address?
> >>
> >>I read somewhere that for election purposes only, as the opening
and
> >>closing time of the ballot boxes has to be the same throughout a
> >>county (at least in Florida, that is), Gulf county uses the same
time
> >>throughout the county. So in one part the voting starts at 6 a.m.,
> >>and in the other part at 7 a.m.
> >>
> >>The splitting up, time-wise, of Gulf co., has to do with the
railway
> >>that runs through it (if I recall correctly). After all, the whole
> >>implementation of the time zone system was really initiated by the
> >>railways in the 19th century.
> >>
> >>Are there any other cases like this in the US? Or in other
countries?
> >>There must be.
> >>
> >>Peter S.