Subject: Re: caus straight or irregular
Date: May 03, 2001 @ 20:33
Author: Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
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--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., David Mark <dmark@g...> wrote:
>
> The CA-US border (Lake of the Woods to Point Robers) consists of a
number
> of "straight" segments between boundary markers, it is sometimes as
far as
> 1/4 mile north or south of the 49th parallel.
>
> I put "straight" in quotes because of the issue of what constitutes
a
> straight line on the earth's surface. The usual definition of the
> equivalent of a straight line is a great circle. But great circles
other
> than meridians and the equator have costantly changing bearings
(compass
> directions). Lines of constant compass bearing, known as
loxodromes, are
> not shortest paths unless they run north-south or are along the
equator.
>
> David
>
> On Thu, 3 May 2001, michael donner wrote:
>
> > actually brian has filed the ultimate dissertation on this topic
> > but it would take a search or a chase goose to get us back to it
> >
> > i think one basic point of his tho was that the lines between
each pair of
> > monuments are unique great circles
> > & thus actually none of them ever aligns perfectly with any other
> >
> > & this is apart from the slight local irregularities that
necessarily occur
> > everywhere a monument is placed
> >
> > whether there are more egregious zigzags or offsets than these i
dont know
> >
> > m
> >
> >
> > >
> > >Interesting about Iraq-Jordan.
> > >
> > >My newest atlas show a straight line, but expedia.com shows a
zig zag.
> > >
> > >Is the caus border between Point Roberts and Lake Wood 100%
straight, or
> > >are the local irregularities?
> > >
> > >Jesper
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "michael donner" <m@...>
> > >To: <BoundaryPoint@y...>
> > >Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 12:38 AM
> > >Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Fiat boundaries
> > >
> > >
> > >> peter mentioned
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., michael donner <m@d...> wrote:
> > >> >> & jesper
> > >> >> of these 5 or 3 singular fiat boundaries we have found
> > >> >> your chad nigeria line is probably the truest & purest in
the world
> > >> >> by virtue of being totally wet as well as probably unmarked
> > >> >> & therefore almost certainly absolutely undeflected by so
much as a
> > >> >single
> > >> >> subatomic particle
> > >> >>
> > >> >> m
> > >> >
> > >> >Not deflected, but Lake Chad being a very salty one with
fluctuating
> > >> >amounts of water (+salt) in it, there are possibly (also
fluctuating)
> > >> >amounts of land that are cut by the boundary.
> > >>
> > >> actually it is now a completely dry line
> > >> as recent photos clearly show in
> > >>
<http://www.afrol.com/Categories/Environment/env062_lake_chad.htm>
> > >>http://www.afrol.com/Categories/Environment/env062_lake_chad.htm
> > >> if you can mentally supply where the border is
> > >>
> > >> still being legal but indefinite it remains the most
pristine of all the
> > >> singular fiats
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> btw i also just noticed that the iraq jordan boundary
> > >> 1 of the 2 other best claimants of singular fiathood
> > >> has recently lapsed into a rather messy de facto zigzag
> > >> vaguely suggestive of the egypt sudan administrative line
> > >>
> > >> so it may well have bitten the dust for any playful purposes
> > >> & we could now be looking at a world class set with only 2
members
> > >> both dry
> > >> one marked
> > >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> still cresting on my brendan waves
> > >> >> & so wishing for the perfect moment point of happy landing
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >Yes I know what you mean. The viscosity of these waves is
huge, I
> > >> >think. What substance is this? No salt water...
> > >>
> > >> i think it must be aurora australis concentrate
> > >>
> > >> responds shimmeringly to your every thought
> > >>
> > >> still dancing across the empyrian on it here too
> > >>
> > >> excelsior
> > >> m
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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