--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., michael donner <m@d...> wrote:
> wait peter
> notwithstanding descheemaeker & the basques on this hyper boundary
> didnt you conclude in message 1740 that the ile de la conference
dry condo
> territory was entirely enclaved in wet spanish territory
> & thus didnt & doesnt interrupt the esfr boundary at all
> as does the wet esfr condo territory in the bay below it
>
> i thought you were right about that then & still do
Yes, I still think this is the situation.
> & wonder what really is meant by hyper in this context
> if not just the fact that true boundary islets naturally present a
kind of
> supersized monumentation
It was meant to mean exactly that. And nothing more should be read
into it. It was the symbolism I was pointing at.
>
> m
Peter S.
>
>
> >
> >It looks like there are three types of boundary divided islands at
> >stake here:
> >
> >1. (the bigger islands) There were settlements at different points,
> >from where sovereignty was extended until a boundary was formed/had
> >to be drawn.
> >2. The boundary was already there, drawn without knowledge of what
> >was in the way, and an island happened to be in the way so it was
cut
> >in two
> >3. The island was purposely used as a boundary marker.
> >
> >The last type is the 'Scandinavian' one, by the looks of it. It is,
> >however, somewhat similar to the Ile de la Conference, which is a
> >condominium, but is also some sort of a hyper-boundary marker on
the
> >esfr boundary. It is explicitely characterised like this by
> >Descheemaeker, and truly a monument to Spanish-French co-operation.
> >Although Basque people would think otherwise, I guess. But they can
> >continue to view it as a monument that keeps North and South
together.
> >
> >Peter S.
> >
> >--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., Arif Samad <fHoiberg@y...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Brendan, Thank you for the research. I guess
> >> Goretty disappeared as an enclave at some time. I
> >> have not been able to find the 1991 census handbook,
> >> so you are definitely more current.
> >> I should have rephrased my question on divided
> >> islands. I noticed there are other islands that are
> >> divided, but the big islands mentioned were divided
> >> with full knowledge of colonial consequences. They
> >> are big islands that had to be divided as different
> >> groups were in control of parts before the islands
> >> were eventually divided and the division couldn't be
> >> circumvented. Only US-Canada and Scandinavian borders
> >> seem to divide tiny islands that could easily be
> >> circumnavigated by the boundary lines. I wonder why
> >> that is. Mike's explanation makes a lot of sense
> >> though. Then again, all of them could just be
> >> mistakes.
> >> Brendan, don't you have the points for Baarle?
> >> Maybe you could create excel charts of the small
> >> enclaves in Baarle like ones done for Cyprus.
> >> Arif
> >>
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