There were Belgian claims as well. They changed the boundaries of the alnd
around the Vennbahn enclaves in the 1950s.
BW
>From: "Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>
>Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: dedelulun possibly even in plain view
>Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 08:06:42 -0000
>
>A most interesting map, Mats. Although it has nothing to do with the
>condominia/Vianden boundary issue, it is the first time I see
>evidence of the war repair claims of Luxembourg on Germany. I was
>only aware of the Dutch claims (some of it was awarded in 1949 but
>returned in 1963, like Elten and the Selfkant area), and French
>claims, but now the Kammerwald creeps in as well.
>
>Michael, this Kammerwald you came up with, a recreational forest as
>it is called here, is probably an entirely different Kammerwald, as
>it is on the web site of the land government of Schleswig-Holstein
>(in the north of Germany). It is part, it says here, of the
>municipality of Haffkrug-Scharbeutz, which I can find in my atlas
>near the city of Luebeck.
>
>The Kammerwald near Vianden is not occupied by Luxembourg (anymore?),
>and the Vianden border detour definitely predates the 2nd world war.
>
>Peter S.
>
>--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., Mats Hessman <Mats@l...> wrote:
> > > is kammenwald some sort of enclave or something
> > > just hanging out here with delu for convenience
> >
> > Colleagues,
> >
> > By chance i found the article "Recent Changes in the
> > Benelux-German Boundary", Lewis M Alexander, The
> > Geographical Rewiew (don't know year and volume as
> > I have only a Xerox copy, but probably late fifties
> > or sixties).
> >
> > It says about Kammerwald: "Belgium was granted all
> > her demands [on Germany], but Luxembourg was awarded
> > only a strip of land along the Our River, some eight
> > square miles in area, containing one German village
> > of about 130 inhabitants. The strip adjoined the
> > Vianden bridgehead and included a state forest, the
> > Kammerwald."
> >
> > Later on: "At the same time the Luxembourg government
> > announced that it would occupy only the uninhabited
> > Kammerwald and leave the rest of the area alone. [...]
> > It seems unlikely now that Luxembourg sovereignity
> > will ever be exercised over the inhabitants."
> >
> > This map was shown (approx 270 kBytes):
> > http://www.geocities.com/exclaves/Fig3.png
> >
> > I know there is a hunt for condominiums going on in
> > this group, but I'm afraid I haven't really followed
> > the debate. Hence, if my information is obsolete
> > or off topic I apologize.
> >
> > An executive summary as to what we know about the
> > number and locality of one or more delu condominiums
> > would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Mats
>
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