You're quite right. It can be seen at
http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/vor50/0,1518,19056,00.html (the area
near Monschau). The map is clickable.
The article is from 1949, so probably the boundary changes of the
denl and bede boundaries took place around the same time.
Peter S.
--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "Brendan Whyte" <brwhyte@h...> wrote:
> There were Belgian claims as well. They changed the boundaries of
the alnd
> around the Vennbahn enclaves in the 1950s.
> BW
>
>
> >From: "Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@y...>
> >Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@y...
> >To: BoundaryPoint@y...
> >Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: dedelulun possibly even in plain view
> >Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 08:06:42 -0000
> >
> >A most interesting map, Mats. Although it has nothing to do with
the
> >condominia/Vianden boundary issue, it is the first time I see
> >evidence of the war repair claims of Luxembourg on Germany. I was
> >only aware of the Dutch claims (some of it was awarded in 1949 but
> >returned in 1963, like Elten and the Selfkant area), and French
> >claims, but now the Kammerwald creeps in as well.
> >
> >Michael, this Kammerwald you came up with, a recreational forest as
> >it is called here, is probably an entirely different Kammerwald, as
> >it is on the web site of the land government of Schleswig-Holstein
> >(in the north of Germany). It is part, it says here, of the
> >municipality of Haffkrug-Scharbeutz, which I can find in my atlas
> >near the city of Luebeck.
> >
> >The Kammerwald near Vianden is not occupied by Luxembourg
(anymore?),
> >and the Vianden border detour definitely predates the 2nd world
war.
> >
> >Peter S.
> >
> >--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., Mats Hessman <Mats@l...> wrote:
> > > > is kammenwald some sort of enclave or something
> > > > just hanging out here with delu for convenience
> > >
> > > Colleagues,
> > >
> > > By chance i found the article "Recent Changes in the
> > > Benelux-German Boundary", Lewis M Alexander, The
> > > Geographical Rewiew (don't know year and volume as
> > > I have only a Xerox copy, but probably late fifties
> > > or sixties).
> > >
> > > It says about Kammerwald: "Belgium was granted all
> > > her demands [on Germany], but Luxembourg was awarded
> > > only a strip of land along the Our River, some eight
> > > square miles in area, containing one German village
> > > of about 130 inhabitants. The strip adjoined the
> > > Vianden bridgehead and included a state forest, the
> > > Kammerwald."
> > >
> > > Later on: "At the same time the Luxembourg government
> > > announced that it would occupy only the uninhabited
> > > Kammerwald and leave the rest of the area alone. [...]
> > > It seems unlikely now that Luxembourg sovereignity
> > > will ever be exercised over the inhabitants."
> > >
> > > This map was shown (approx 270 kBytes):
> > > http://www.geocities.com/exclaves/Fig3.png
> > >
> > > I know there is a hunt for condominiums going on in
> > > this group, but I'm afraid I haven't really followed
> > > the debate. Hence, if my information is obsolete
> > > or off topic I apologize.
> > >
> > > An executive summary as to what we know about the
> > > number and locality of one or more delu condominiums
> > > would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Mats
> >
>
>
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