Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Bits and Pieces
Date: Apr 22, 2001 @ 01:39
Author: Brendan Whyte ("Brendan Whyte" <brwhyte@...>)
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The 1998(?) treaty between Ecuador and Peru over their disputed boundary
gave to Ecuador a small cemetery in Peru where Ecuadorian soldiers were
buried who were killed in the fight over the line. Not a true enclave, but
land to be owned by the govt of Ecuador. Virtual enclave!!

BW

>From: peter.smaardijk@...
>Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Bits and Pieces
>Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:29:40 -0000
>
>A "virtual" territory (probably not an enclave) in the way Arif
>describes it is the Mundatwald, a forest in Germany, just over the
>border from the French town of Wissembourg (Weissenburg). According to
>http://communes.quid.fr/WEB/GEOPHYS/FR/Q016420.HTM , the forest was
>given to the abbey of Wissembourg in the 8th century by Pepin the
>Short, and was exempt from taxation by a grant from Otto II (probably
>the German emperor at the time). After Napoleons fall from power, the
>border was redrawn along the river Lauter, and France lost 2/3 of the
>forest. In 1983 (conference of Dabo between the French president
>Mitterand and the German federal chancellor Kohl), it was decided that
>the forest was French property, but German territory.
>
>On a road map I can find two Mundatwalds: the Oberer Mundatwald, n.w.
>of Wissembourg, and the Unterer Mundatwald, due east of Wissembourg.
>
>Peter S.
>
>--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., Arif Samad <fHoiberg@y...> wrote:
> > I will be touching on a few subjects.
> > First of all, have you guys checked up on the size of
> > Zubara and associated land that Bahrain claimed on
> > Qatar on map 2. This would have almost doubled the
> > area of Bahrain. The situation in Arabia is almost
> > always due to differing concepts of sovereignty from
> > the muslim and western perspectives and causes the
> > mess.
> > Secondly, we really need to see the Namibia island
> > maps from the book "Walvis Bay" to understand what the
> > situation was (if the map is correct). It isn't as
> > simple as straight baselines and 200 mile limits.
> > Thirdly, I am collecting "virtual" enclaves where a
> > country owns or owned a piece of territory in a
> > different land but not sovereignty. Obviously, I
> > could include many embassies, but that would make the
> > list too big and I am ignoring them. But the source
> > of Seine virtual enclave is first I have seen in the
> > state level if it happens to be just ownership by
> > Paris. Does anybody know of a place where I can
> > research whether the source is a virtual or real
> > enclave or not.
> > Arif
> >
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