Subject: Re: Bits and Pieces
Date: Apr 18, 2001 @ 08:29
Author: peter.smaardijk@and.com (peter.smaardijk@...)
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A "virtual" territory (probably not an enclave) in the way Arif
describes it is the Mundatwald, a forest in Germany, just over the
border from the French town of Wissembourg (Weissenburg). According to
http://communes.quid.fr/WEB/GEOPHYS/FR/Q016420.HTM , the forest was
given to the abbey of Wissembourg in the 8th century by Pepin the
Short, and was exempt from taxation by a grant from Otto II (probably
the German emperor at the time). After Napoleons fall from power, the
border was redrawn along the river Lauter, and France lost 2/3 of the
forest. In 1983 (conference of Dabo between the French president
Mitterand and the German federal chancellor Kohl), it was decided that
the forest was French property, but German territory.

On a road map I can find two Mundatwalds: the Oberer Mundatwald, n.w.
of Wissembourg, and the Unterer Mundatwald, due east of Wissembourg.

Peter S.

--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., Arif Samad <fHoiberg@y...> wrote:
> I will be touching on a few subjects.
> First of all, have you guys checked up on the size of
> Zubara and associated land that Bahrain claimed on
> Qatar on map 2. This would have almost doubled the
> area of Bahrain. The situation in Arabia is almost
> always due to differing concepts of sovereignty from
> the muslim and western perspectives and causes the
> mess.
> Secondly, we really need to see the Namibia island
> maps from the book "Walvis Bay" to understand what the
> situation was (if the map is correct). It isn't as
> simple as straight baselines and 200 mile limits.
> Thirdly, I am collecting "virtual" enclaves where a
> country owns or owned a piece of territory in a
> different land but not sovereignty. Obviously, I
> could include many embassies, but that would make the
> list too big and I am ignoring them. But the source
> of Seine virtual enclave is first I have seen in the
> state level if it happens to be just ownership by
> Paris. Does anybody know of a place where I can
> research whether the source is a virtual or real
> enclave or not.
> Arif
>
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