1. Berlin map
    I and others have asked for Berlin maps showing both wall and border. I have found one in the book Die Berliner Mauer by Thomas Flemming. See attachment for
    Oct 14, 2004 @ 18:19 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@image.dk>)
  2. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Berlin map
    Great map. It would be nice to see all of Berlin. ... A bad day in television is still better than a good day in a cubicle.
    Oct 14, 2004 @ 18:33 - Doug Murray (Doug Murray <doug@...>)
  3. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Berlin map
    ... What is the black line east of the Pariser Platz? It is *not* the wall, the Pariser Platz was only barred from the east, the wall, of course was west of
    Oct 14, 2004 @ 18:49 - Manfred Haertel, DB3HM ("Manfred Haertel, DB3HM" <Manfred.Haertel@...>)
  4. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Berlin map
    Is that not the internal wall... where there was either a second wall or an area that was restricted. As I recall the Brandenburger Tor was off limits to
    Oct 14, 2004 @ 19:59 - Doug Murray (Doug Murray <doug@...>)
  5. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Berlin map
    GSZ: Grenzsicherungszaun HSiM: Hinterlandssicherungsmauer ... From: Manfred Haertel, DB3HM To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004
    Oct 14, 2004 @ 20:31 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  6. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Berlin map
    Are we here http://www.wall-berlin.org/cadre/chine11.jpg looking from west into east? How far could the easterners get to the tor? Jesper ... From: Manfred
    Oct 14, 2004 @ 20:36 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  7. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Berlin map
    ... Yes, absolutely. ... They could get to where the black line east of the Pariser Platz is on your excellent map. Your are right in naming it the
    Oct 14, 2004 @ 21:19 - Ernst Stavro Blofeld (Ernst Stavro Blofeld <blofeld_es@yahoo.com>)
  8. Re: Berlin map
    ... wrote: (...) ... (...) The three are at http://www.dailysoft.com/berlinwall/maps/index_de.htm (last three maps) Peter
    Oct 15, 2004 @ 08:45 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  9. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Berlin map
    Are there any pictures of the famous DDR triangles that was left on the western side of the wall? http://www.dailysoft.com/berlinwall/maps/berlinkarten_04.htm
    Oct 15, 2004 @ 17:08 - Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
  10. Re: Berlin map
    On the Lenné triangle: http://www.pohl-projekt.de/G_M_L/g_m_lenne001.htm I would like to see some pictures of the vegetable garden of Osman Kalin behind St.
    Oct 15, 2004 @ 17:26 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  11. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Berlin map
    Ok so if looking at the wall, we look from West to East...and I am assuming the metal fence marks the approximate border. So these pics are on the West side
    Oct 16, 2004 @ 22:20 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  12. Re: Berlin map
    The story in English is told at http://www.berlintoronto.com/maindirectory.htm (search for Wolfgang Ritter). Peter
    Oct 17, 2004 @ 10:42 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  13. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Berlin map
    Great story! Thanks, Peter! Doug ... ... ... A bad day in television is still better than a good day in a cubicle.
    Oct 17, 2004 @ 18:39 - Doug Murray (Doug Murray <doug@...>)
  14. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Berlin map
    Cool! Thanks. Good find. -Mike ... http://www.stthomas-berlin.de/bilder/images/003-kircheMauer.jpg ...
    Oct 17, 2004 @ 20:37 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  15. Re: Berlin map
    Some time ago, I copied some stories on the Lenné triangle from the internet. All those links are dead now, but I have translated one of those stories into
    Oct 18, 2004 @ 13:42 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  16. Re: Berlin map
    what a prodigious lot of bittersweet work by you peter i trust you are fine anyway do take care tho as our amplifiers & reflectors are set on high here you
    Oct 18, 2004 @ 15:05 - aletheiak ("aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>)
  17. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Berlin map
    ... The original page can still be read at . -Pepijn
    Oct 20, 2004 @ 18:24 - Pepijn Hendriks ("Pepijn Hendriks" <yahoo@...>)
  18. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Berlin map
    Are you sure the link is correct? - I can not get it to work even after adding in the stuff from the second line. ...
    Oct 20, 2004 @ 22:46 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  19. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Berlin map
    Works for me. Jesper ... Are you sure the link is correct? - I can not get it to work even after adding in the stuff from the second line. ...
    Oct 21, 2004 @ 06:39 - jesniel@image.dk (jesniel@...)
  20. Re: Berlin map
    Mike, what you do is you go to http://www.archive.org/ and enter the dead link there. If you are lucky (and in this particular case, you are:-)), they keep a
    Oct 21, 2004 @ 08:38 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
  21. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Berlin map
    6149_lese.htm you need to add this, then it will work, regards, chris ... From: Peter Smaardijk To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 21,
    Oct 21, 2004 @ 10:37 - chris schulz ("chris schulz" <23568@...>)
  22. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Berlin map
    Yes it is working today, but did not work for me yesterday when I tried it a couple of times. ...
    Oct 21, 2004 @ 20:09 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  23. Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Berlin map
    Yep - got it. And thanks for the translation of this! What is the area like today? -Mike ...
    Oct 21, 2004 @ 20:15 - Michael Kaufman (Michael Kaufman <mikekaufman79@...>)
  24. Re: Berlin map
    Beyond recognition, is all I can say. It has become part of the huge Potsdamer Platzurban development area. Lots of high rise buildings.
    Oct 22, 2004 @ 08:11 - Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)