Subject: Re: Re straddling - military causes it, too<br/>
Date: May 04, 2003 @ 01:41<br/>
Author: L. A. Nadybal (&quot;L. A. Nadybal&quot; &lt;lnadybal@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-1481168107">Hi.<br/>
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The house was in Phillipsthal, and housed the Hossfeldsche Druckerei.<br/>
 The East Germans said to the owners that the house was E property<br/>
because the main door was on the E German side of the border.  The E<br/>
guards occupied the ground floor on both sides of the border.  After<br/>
the road to the adjacent town was blocked and the guards were pulled<br/>
to the rear of the blockade, the family spent a news year&#39;s eve<br/>
blocking walls and cutting a new main door on the western side.  The E<br/>
side became delapidated while they kept the W side up to the actual<br/>
border between Hessen and Thuringen remodelled.<br/>
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My recollection about the time of the event was wrong - it was after<br/>
the &quot;rectification&quot; conducted as part of operation &quot;Rolling the<br/>
Carpet&quot;.  The US Zone of occupation did not follow the German land and<br/>
kreis borders  - the US held 43% of Germany&#39;s 1937 territorial area<br/>
(78,000 mi2), and after rectification, and only on establishment of<br/>
the US Zone comprising the 41,400 mi2 assigned to it, did the zonal<br/>
borders follow the old German ones.  It was AFTER this time that the<br/>
Russians pulled the chicanery in Phillipsthal.  <br/>
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Google-away.<br/>
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Regards <br/>
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LN <br/>
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<blockquote><span title="qreply"> --- In <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com">BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com</a>, &quot;anorak222&quot; &lt;listen@w...&gt; wrote:<br/>
&gt; --- In <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com">BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com</a>, &quot;L. A. Nadybal&quot;<br/>
&lt;lnadybal@c...&gt; wrote:<br/>
&gt; &gt; There was one building straddling the East-West German border where<br/>
&gt; &gt; the upper floors were east and the lower were west.  The East German<br/>
&gt; &gt; Army occupied the uppor floor, and a west German couple lived<br/>
&gt; &gt; downstairs.<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; Are you sure it wasn&#39;t just a right/left part of the building? I<br/>
seem to remember that, but I forgot where it was. If you remember the<br/>
name of the location, maybe we could do some googling.<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; &gt; The border at that point was a result of the position of<br/>
&gt; &gt; US-Russian troops when the war ended. <br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; Unlikely. The East/West German border (occupation zones then) was<br/>
decided in several Allied post-war conferences which took place in<br/>
1944/1945 (London/Potsdam/Yalta). Here&#39;s a map which is a result of<br/>
those agreements: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.wschwanke.de/tmp/germany_map-d.jpg">http://www.wschwanke.de/tmp/germany_map-d.jpg</a><br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; The borders were drawn along previous internal German state or<br/>
province boundaries, with minor corrections in two or three locations.<br/>
They&#39;re a case of &quot;upgrading&quot; lower level borders, as Ernst Stavro<br/>
Blofeld put it. Actual location of troops was not part of the decision<br/>
process.<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; Regards </span></blockquote></div>