Subject: Re: BZGT<br/>
Date: Apr 26, 2003 @ 14:27<br/>
Author: acroorca2002 (&quot;acroorca2002&quot; &lt;orc@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-674323809"><blockquote><span title="ireply">&gt; I did not get a photo of a BZGT border marker -- there are only 3 <br/>
<br/>
&gt; I also found out from the border officials that there is an official <br/>
&gt; marker<br/>
&gt; at BZGTMX.  <br/>
<br/>
&gt; there is a good chance of being back here in a month.<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; Doug<br/>
<br/>
 </span></blockquote>great & so if you do return<br/>
then as you probably recall<br/>
bzgtmx has been in transition<br/>
<br/>
the point marked by the old marker <br/>
at aguas turbias <br/>
was never tripartite<br/>
& belize has formally conceded it is only a point on gtmx<br/>
<br/>
so it isnt the true tripoint but only a formerly supposed tripoint<br/>
<br/>
& the new marker <br/>
or marker designate<br/>
situated a very short distance due east of the old one<br/>
at nlat 17d 03m 31s071 x wlong 89d 09m 00s283<br/>
awaits referendums & ratifications indefinitely postponed<br/>
<br/>
so here is a chance for a rare class aa visit<br/>
& a double bullseye on a tripoint that doesnt even legally exist yet<br/>
<br/>
what fun<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
also <br/>
in addition to the 3 major bzgt monuments<br/>
there are 32 lesser bzgt markers<br/>
all in the southern sector<br/>
but i dont think any of these will be easy to find or photograph<br/>
<br/>
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://belize.centramerica.com/noticias/detalle.asp?Id=664">http://belize.centramerica.com/noticias/detalle.asp?Id=664</a><br/>
<br/>
<br/>
also<br/>
as you return to bz from your present location at livingston<br/>
passing thru the bahia de amatique<br/>
take a look toward the east<br/>
past the cabo de tres puntas aka tripoint cape<br/>
into the gulf of honduras<br/>
where there is also a bzgthn territorial waters tripoint designate<br/>
according to the same bzgt treaty in process<br/>
<br/>
the maps attached to<br/>
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.belize.gov.bz/features/proposals/belize_guatemala_di">http://www.belize.gov.bz/features/proposals/belize_guatemala_di</a><br/>
fferendum.html<br/>
reveal the position of this point<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
also shown on the maps <br/>
only btw <br/>
& only since we were discussing this topic recently<br/>
are the straight coastal baselines on which the territorial waters <br/>
of the 3 countries are based <br/>
& from which the new tripoint position was determined using the <br/>
equidistance principle<br/>
<br/>
& the still more streamlined 12nm limits can also be seen there<br/>
also only btw<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
but back to the chase<br/>
i am most curious what if anything you have been able to learn <br/>
locally about the present status or anticipated fate of the stalled <br/>
bzgt treaty<br/>
<br/>
there has been no news on the internet since the guatemalan <br/>
referendum was indefinitely postponed last year<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
& most germanely & by special request doug<br/>
heres wishing you a fulfilling completion of your 40th year <br/>
& a happy beginning of your 41st<br/>
& indeed may all your years fill in like parallels of latitude</div>