Subject: Re: Fw: question about barak
Date: Mar 21, 2003 @ 10:55
Author: max23568 ("max23568" <23568@...>)
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hi,

i found a link, that talks about large amounts of enclaves,
comparable to barak.

"the chairman of the Kyrgyz government for frontier questions Salamat
Almanov explained that " except Barak, 30 Kyrgyz villages are in the
condition of enclaves on the Uzbek land and which are torn off from
the territory of their state." He also had noted: " There is a world
experience of the exit from such situations by the way of exchanging
of land parts or assigning the communicational corridors. If it is in
our interests, we can adopt such a variant of the problem decision.
Now the negotiations with Uzbekistan take place."

"According to the data of the Kyrgyz Government, Uzbekistan has 4
enclaves on the territory of Kyrgyzstan, and Kyrgyzstan on the land
of Uzbekistan – about 30. Except enclaves which appeared as the
result of historical objective processes, there are a lot of this
establishments of the new time thanks to the wish of local
authorities, which justify their decisions by the economical
necessity."

here is the link:
http://www.assamblea.kg/em11-2_1.htm

ups - isnt this the link, jan refers to on his Kyrgyzstan-site?

regards, chris




--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "chris" <23568@g...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> in google i found some links about barak, similar to those, peter
posted on boundary point.
>
> In the following link i found a tiny info:
>
http://www.eurasianet.org/resource/kyrgyzstan/hypermail/200104/0053.ht
ml
>
>
> 6. OSH GOVERNOR VISITS A KYRGYZ ENCLAVE IN UZBEKISTAN. Governor
of the
> southern Osh Province Naken Kasiev has visited the Kyrgyz
village of Barak,
> situated on Uzbek territory. It belongs to the Kara-Suu district
of Osh
> Province and was not an enclave in the Soviet times
>
> (this will be the fact, why its not marked in the maps).
>
> There are about 700
> residents in the village. Head of the Kurgan-Tobe district
administration of
> Uzbekistan Malik Kasymov accompanied Kasiev. The governor
promised all
> possible help to the village residents.
>
>
>
> on this Link they talk about "numerous tiny enclaves inside
Uzbekistan":
>
> http://www.iwpr.net/archive/rca/rca_200106_57_3_eng.txt
>
> In another region of southern Kyrgyzstan, Osh, the situation is the
opposite. Several Kyrgyz communities found themselves on Uzbek
territory. One of them, Barak, a village of 627 Kyrgyz people, has
become, the locals say, a major bone of contention in border talks
with Uzbekistan.
>
> Like other Kyrgyz people living in the numerous tiny enclaves
inside Uzbekistan, they have stopped all dealings with the Kyrgyz
mainland. "It's too hard," one man said.
>
> Men from Barak always carry two kinds of ethnic head dress - at
home they wear the Kyrgyz kalpak, but when they venture into
Uzbekistan they feel it's safer to wear the Uzbek tubeteika, skull
cap.
>
> Barak council leader Gapurjan Tairov says local cotton and wheat
farmers need written permission from Tashkent in order to transport
and sell their crops in Kyrgyzstan. Getting the permits takes an age
and in the meantime the farmers' produce goes off and drops in value.
>
> The villagers feel unwanted and dispossessed. Health care provision
is limited. In this one-village enclave, pregnant women have to make
arrangements well in advance to travel to Kyrgyzstan for the last
weeks of their pregnancy to be sure of decent treatment when they go
into labour.
>
> The local GP, Marapat Borueva, says there are no emergency medical
facilities in the village and without the relevant papers it's often
impossible to transport critically-ill patients to larger hospitals
outside the enclave.
>
> "My daughter had an appendicitis seizure this spring - we tried to
take her to our municipal hospital, but Uzbek border guards wouldn't
let us through," Borueva recalled. "We did eventually smuggle our
daughter across the border at a different checkpoint. We barely made
it."
>
> Barak has a primary school, but is too small to have a secondary
school. When the border checkpoints were set up it became
increasingly difficult for older children to commute to middle and
high schools in larger, nearby villages.
>
> In early spring, Barak residents demonstrated in protest at their
plight outside the Osh regional government building. It seems this
was the first time the authorities were made aware of the village's
plight.
>
> Mediation by the new Osh governor Naken Kasiev has brought the
villagers access to telephones and a new site has been set aside for
a high school. But the tiresome border point checks remain.
>
> Interesting to see, that Barak is just one of some more places in
identical situations.It would be intersting to find out, why the
enclaves came into existence or why barak is called an enclave
and "all the others" not. maybe its the effect of the protest of the
people of barak that barak got the focus, the consciousness of the
media.
>
> Anyway, we get a Barak (or balik or even valik) on a map and
another Barak from the articles close to Kara-Su. The article-Barak
seems to be an ethnic enclave, but what i dont understand is, why
cant a village of 700 people be found on Geonet.
>
> Regards, Chris