You have to make sure you copy and paste the whole URL into the
Address field - you can't just click on it... the question mark in
the URL seems to confuse the system.
Here it is again -- maybe turning message wrap off will help. Maybe.
http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?
t=2&s=12&x=788&y=6230&z=18&w=2
...or would someone know a way around this? It doesn't look like
posting it as a HTML hyperlink works, either.
The boat drop is only a few meters east of the "toll bridge", on the
sandbar. The aerial shows it nicely.
--J
--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "bjbutlerus" <bjbutler@b...> wrote:
> What tripoint map? What sandbar? And what boat drop?
> BJB
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "Meridien24" <meridien24@y...> wrote:
> > TopoZone seems to have the border misplaced!... Ft Montgomery
isn't
> > even there! Weird. Maptech's server must be down, I keep
getting
> > 404's... I'll use TerraServer for today.
> >
> > One of the television directors here is a lifelong resident of
NY's
> > North Country - he tells me that Ft. Montgomery was bought by the
> > president of a nearby pharmaceutical plant to turn into his
personal
> > Xanadu. The access road to the Fort, he tells me, is barred and
> > posted. Nevertheless.
> >
> > And to correct myself -- of course, Ft Montgomery IS on land
> > (...duh), it just happens to be separated by a moat - which, I'm
> > told, has progressively filled back up to the point that the Fort
is
> > only an "island" at high tide. But the Fort may not be the best
> > vantage point anyway, as you pointed out.
> >
> > Alburg's "Line Road" - which straddles the border for several
miles -
> > makes it all the way to marker 644, thus might be the best way to
> > approach this, since the only dry option in NY would be to sneak
into
> > the Fort. Betcha anything I'll earn another run-in with the
border
> > patrol, though.
> >
> > While I'm there, I'll make a side trip to another interesting
border-
> > area military ruin... the abandoned nuclear Atlas missile site
> > located 600 meters from the border in Champlain. Went there a
while
> > ago, but sans camera. It obviously hasn't been touched since the
mid-
> > 60's. (This area is even richer than I thought with border-
> > straddling roads, abandoned & unguarded border crossings, etc!)
> >
> > As far as the frozen option -- you'll notice on the tripoint map
that
> > most of the link across the river is a sandbar, not a bridge, and
the
> > sandbar is usually reliable in freezing a good chunk strong
enough
> > for pick-up trucks. The boat drop on the sandbar is used by US
> > border enforcement agencies but is open for anyone to use - I
should
> > at least get closer. We'll see in February.
> >
> >
> > TerraServer Topo/Sat. images of tripoint area:
> > http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?
> > t=2&s=12&x=788&y=6230&z=18&w=2
> >
> > TerraServer Topo/Sat. images of Atlas missile "auxiliary" site
> > http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/image.aspx?
> > t=1&s=12&x=775&y=6230&z=18&w=2
> >
> >
> > --Jay Di Battista
> > Plattsburgh, NY
> > WPTZ-TV
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "acroorca2002" <orc@o...> wrote:
> > > oops
> > > i just found maptech gives a much better map than topozone
> > > & it does show a road crossing the moat to montgomery island
> > > so some remnant of that connection may still be there for you
> > >
> > > however this map also shows that there is a closer approach to
> > > the tripoint position on firmer ground from the vermont side
> > > & that there are monuments just above both banks
> > > numbered 644 & 645a in vt & ny respectively
> > >
> > > these monuments are likely to be intervisible on a clear day
> > > so they may be a help in getting a fix on the tripoint position
> > > by just eyeballing along the caus line from either shore
> > >
> > > but the map also indicates that the tripoint is slightly closer
to
> > the
> > > right bank than the left
> > > & actually very near midstream
> > > so my earlier belief that it favors the left bank is mistaken
> > >
> > > the map also shows a wetmark or buoy within the richelieu river
> > > numbered 645
> > > tho the ibc specifies this position as a site rather than a
marker
> > > hence probably just a ghost & no longer an extant monument
> > > but it would be interesting to know if anything is still out
there
> > >
> > > also i really like your ice walking plan
> > > especially as it would be a bp first
> > > but since a mild el nino winter is being predicted
> > > the ice isnt likely to get very hard this year
> > >
> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "Meridien24" <meridien24@y...> wrote:
> > > > Ol' Ft. Blunder happens to be my desktop picture! -- check
out
> > > the
> > > > link below. It's only about 100 yards from the tripoint.
> > > >
> > > > Driving to Ft Montgomery is, well, impossible - as you can
see
> > > on the
> > > > small map, it's not on land! I'm not sure the link it had to
> > land
> > > is
> > > > still there..
> > > >
> > > > however, here's a thought: in a couple of months, the lake'll
be
> > > > frozen. Maybe then I can walk to the tri-point... hmm.
We'll
> > see
> > > > how cold it gets.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.historiclakes.org/explore/Montgomery.html
> > > >
> > > > --J
> > > >
> > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "bjbutlerus" <bjbutler@b...> wrote:
> > > > > Your best bet would be to drive out to the fortification
shown
> > > in
> > > > > Mike's photo and canoe out from there. The fort is Fort
> > > Montgomery,
> > > > > built but never used.
> > > > >
> > > > > BJB
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "m donner" <maxivan82@h...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > hi jay
> > > > > >
> > > > > > both your posts were well enjoyed
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the attached pic was taken from the bridge on a dark day
> > > > > > ny at left
> > > > > > vt at right
> > > > > > qc on the horizon
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i believe the tripoint is situated roughly athwart the
large
> > > > > fortification
> > > > > > barely visible at left
> > > > > > & of course you can confirm or improve upon this guess if
> > > you can
> > > > > find the
> > > > > > nyqc terminal monument
> > > > > >
> > > > > > as you probably also know from topozone
> > > > > > the usgs indicates the tripoint lies only about a quarter
or
> > a
> > > > third
> > > > > of the
> > > > > > way from the left to the right shore
> > > > > >
> > > > > > so heres wishing you a much brighter as well as a much
> > > dryer day
> > > > so
> > > > > you can
> > > > > > develop this further
> > > > > > m