Subject: Re: US Border Controls and Canada -- an editorial<br/>
Date: Nov 07, 2002 @ 02:51<br/>
Author: Karolis B (&quot;Karolis B&quot; &lt;kbajoras@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-305433112">--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., &quot;Doug Murray&quot; &lt;doug@d...&gt; wrote:<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; It&#39;s such a weird issue...  on one side, the border defines two <br/>
 </span></blockquote>sovereign nations -- who must look out for themselves and protect <br/>
their citizens.  On the other side, the similarities between Canada <br/>
and the US are probably unlike any other neighbours.  But we are 2 <br/>
different countries, and I guess we should act like it.  <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; <br/>
&gt; When I go to the US, I don&#39;t feel like a foreigner -- the language, <br/>
 </span></blockquote>food, entertainment, cars, people, etc. are all the same.  And I know <br/>
I&#39;m not a Finn. (inside joke) But I am a foreigner.  And, I reckon, I <br/>
should be treated like all other aliens entering a sovereign nation.  <br/>
Of course, I say that as a white, English speaking male.  I&#39;m sure if <br/>
I were racially profiled and fingerprinted every time I crossed the <br/>
border, I would make fewer trips to Seattle for baseball and Krispy <br/>
Kremes.  <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; <br/>
&gt; I still think things were better back in the days of the cold war.  <br/>
 </span></blockquote>*grin*<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; <br/>
&gt; Doug<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; I allow myself a wry smile when I hear this argument. As you may be <br/>
 </span></blockquote>aware, <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; the UK refused to join the Schengen Area citing the same reasons, <br/>
 </span></blockquote>yet any <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; regular traveller knows you can fly into certain regional airports <br/>
 </span></blockquote>after <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; the passport and customs people have gone home. Even at London <br/>
 </span></blockquote>Heathrow, <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; it&#39;s rare to find any customs officers in attendance after about <br/>
 </span></blockquote>8.00 PM.<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; <br/>
&gt; I know the UK authorities will argue that they have limited <br/>
 </span></blockquote>resources and <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; prefer to target high-risk flights, but that only validates my <br/>
 </span></blockquote>point even <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; more. They clearly don&#39;t consider flights from other EU/EEA <br/>
 </span></blockquote>countries to be <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; a high risk, so why keep up the pretence that border controls are <br/>
 </span></blockquote>necessary <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; to protect the nation? They serve only to inconvenience the vast <br/>
 </span></blockquote>majority <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; of legitimate travellers.<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; Incidentally, I wonder how many people would tolerate border <br/>
 </span></blockquote>controls <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; between the US states or Canadian provinces ;-)<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; Regards,<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; Kevin Meynell<br/>
<br/>
 </span></blockquote>No strong opinion on the main issue, but I can say, Doug, Krispy <br/>
Kreme is worth racial profiling at the border! oooo, idea, idea! give <br/>
every profiled Arab a box of Krispy Kreme and they will WANT to be <br/>
profiled!</div>