Subject: Lost border markers WAS webpage on the bordermarkers of Llivia
Date: Oct 02, 2002 @ 18:37
Author: Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@image.dk>)
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I know the feelings, but sometimes it helps to go back. On our recent DEDK expedition we found a few "lost" boundary markers using common sence and putting one in the demarcation commisions shoes, and we are getting better and better at it.
 
Attached two photos of lost boundary markers from DEDK:
 
10.jpg: Border marker #10. Found by Hans-Peter after long searching. Some of the dirt around have been clearing to confirm the finding. The marker was by the joining of two fences. The picture is taken just south of the marker inside Germany. Note on attached map from the 1920 agreement that the border leaves the Krusau stream to include the entire mill in Germany, otherwise it would have been split in two countries. The mill is now abandoned and the area is a mess, as a used car dealer has his car graveyard there. We should have kept in there in 1920, but now it too late. Denmark by the way got some other land in return, I am not sure where, but have an idea.
 
19a.jpg: Border marker 19a. Found by me. Second attempt. Last time we had 19 and 20 and walked between the two, but saw nothing. I tried to walk it again, and in the clearing found this stone with a line on top. It was pure lock. I told Peter of my finding and asked him to find it himself: he walked right passed it, but again he saw the line. Again on this photo we have cleared some dirt around it. Enclosed it also an official 1920 map of the area.
 
kobbermolle-map.jpg: The official 1920 border map from the eastern side of the border. We have located all markers from this end, except 11 (I gave up after having mud to my knees), and 3 (on the Danish side). This area is very difficult to access.
 
Krusaa-map.jpg: The official 1920 map of the border. See how the border crossing has changed comparing with present map on http://levende.kms.dk/geoservice2000/kortbrowser/mapviewer.asp?size=1&mapid=d%2f25&csystem=geo_wgs84&cx=0,1642&cy=0,95716. Between border markers 15-16-17 is now a German house with a German family. We have spoken with him a few times and he only speaks a few words of Danish, inspite that his property fence is the border to Denmark.  
 
Hope you enjoy it.
 
Jesper
 
>- I consider the moresnet-border-expedition as completed, the
missing
>bordermarkers not being found by earlier trips of other
bordermen. But
>sometimes it aches a little: couldn't that one or other
marker be hidden in
>a backyard or buried under the ground? Shouldn't I
one day etc.etc.?